@GeneralDisarray said in OOB: GeneralDisarray (X) vs GovZ (L+42):
@GovZ Submerge and scramble request? tJ1 scramble and submerge request.tsvg
Submerge the sub. No scramble in 35.
PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334
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@max334 No, it is not right after all. Planes can hit subs if there is a destroyer there. So, I am staying with 2 subs as originally intended :)
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@nikola1975 t I’m looking on page 33 of the rule book and it says the DD has to be from your side (ie ‘destroyer friendly to the air units in the battle’).
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@nikola1975 Let me know what you want to send and I’ll decide on the scramble
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@max334 2 subs. I tried to run the move offline, it killed the subs from the fighters. If you have a destroyer in the battle, you are able to hit the subs and the other side can chose them as casualties.
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@nikola1975 its a player enforced rule
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@max334 makes sense… planes cant hit subs
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do we hold for a decision from like a moderator or experienced player?
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@max334 No, you are wrong:
https://axisallies.com/global-1940-second-edition-rules/
You can ask someone if you wish.
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Yes destroyers do change the situation but the destroyer has to be friendly to the air unit attacking.
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@max334 if you had to destroyer it would change the situation but you can’t use my destroyer to your advantage
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@max334 Well, what I understand here is that air units require destroyer which is friendly to them. Your air units to have a destroyer that is friendly unit. Isn’t this saying so?
If you can find someone to ask, it would help, this is interesting case to know for the future.
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ok, I’ll ask simon33
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@nikola1975 You have to bring a dd ( from your side ) to be able to hit enemy subs from your planes; even if Max has a dd. If your planes hit X2 and Max has only one dd, only the dd can be chosen for the casualty. You cannot use his dd for his advantage, Max should have the option to even submerge the subs because you are not bringing a dd.
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@sovietishcat thank you for helping with that
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if my DD hits you can assign to your sub, but not hits from my planes unless you bring in your own DD
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Can’t Be Hit by Air Units: When attacking or defending, hits scored by air units can’t be assigned to submarines unless
there is a destroyer that is friendly to the air units in the battle Page 33 from Europe rule book. Allies dd are not friendly to axis. hope it helps. -
ok Nikola… no scrambles … and I better not see you doing a victory dance
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@max334 hm, cant upload the game, it seems there is some problem with a forum. will try later
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 armour, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Rostov 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 101 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Northern Belarus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel 3 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vologda 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 10 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 101 Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 101 Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries in Vologda, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 3 armour, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Germans attack with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 6/21 hits, 6.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Germans win, taking Yaroslavl from Russians with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Southern Caucasus Germans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Caucasus Germans win, taking Southern Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 4.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 8/9 hits, 4.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Rostov, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Rostov Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eire to 112 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 bombers moved from Rostov to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany 1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Romania Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.00 Germans regular : 4.83 British regular : 0.33 -
TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda 5 infantry moved from Gorky to Vologda 2 armour moved from Russia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Russians take Eastern Poland from Germans 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus Russians take Northern Caucasus from Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk
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