@WindowWasher Take the cruisers as casualties and continue the fight
PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334
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@max334 Well, what I understand here is that air units require destroyer which is friendly to them. Your air units to have a destroyer that is friendly unit. Isn’t this saying so?
If you can find someone to ask, it would help, this is interesting case to know for the future.
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ok, I’ll ask simon33
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@nikola1975 You have to bring a dd ( from your side ) to be able to hit enemy subs from your planes; even if Max has a dd. If your planes hit X2 and Max has only one dd, only the dd can be chosen for the casualty. You cannot use his dd for his advantage, Max should have the option to even submerge the subs because you are not bringing a dd.
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@sovietishcat thank you for helping with that
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if my DD hits you can assign to your sub, but not hits from my planes unless you bring in your own DD
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Can’t Be Hit by Air Units: When attacking or defending, hits scored by air units can’t be assigned to submarines unless
there is a destroyer that is friendly to the air units in the battle Page 33 from Europe rule book. Allies dd are not friendly to axis. hope it helps. -
ok Nikola… no scrambles … and I better not see you doing a victory dance
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@max334 hm, cant upload the game, it seems there is some problem with a forum. will try later
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 armour, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Vyborg 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Rostov 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 101 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Vyborg 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Northern Belarus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel 3 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vologda 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 4 armour, 3 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 10 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 101 Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 fighters British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 3 fighters in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 101 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 101 Sea Zone Germans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone Germans win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Northern Belarus Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Belarus Germans win, taking Northern Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber in Vyborg, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Vyborg, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Vyborg Germans win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Archangel Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Archangel, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 3 armour, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries in Vologda, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 3 armour, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries and 3 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Germans attack with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 6/21 hits, 6.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Germans win, taking Yaroslavl from Russians with 4 armour, 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Southern Caucasus Germans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Southern Caucasus Germans win, taking Southern Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 4.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 4.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 8/9 hits, 4.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Rostov, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Rostov Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 4 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 26 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vyborg to Leningrad 1 fighter moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Leningrad 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eire to 112 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 bombers moved from Rostov to Ukraine Place Units - Germans 1 factory_minor placed in Leningrad 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany 1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Romania Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 58 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1.00 Germans regular : 4.83 British regular : 0.33
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TripleA Move Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda 5 infantry moved from Gorky to Vologda 2 armour moved from Russia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Russians take Eastern Poland from Germans 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus Russians take Northern Caucasus from Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Karelia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda 5 infantry moved from Gorky to Vologda 2 armour moved from Russia to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Russians take Eastern Poland from Germans 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus Russians take Northern Caucasus from Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk Combat - Russians Germans scrambles 3 units out of Leningrad to defend against the attack in Vologda Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 3.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Vologda, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4.83 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Germans and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 3 : 3/8 hits, 3.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Vologda, round 3 : 3/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 4 : 4/5 hits, 2.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for Russians: 2 armour and 6 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Smolensk, round 7 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk 1 artillery owned by the Russians retreated to Southern Belarus Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Southern Manchuria Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Manchuria Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 6 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 7 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 8 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 9 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 9 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria Russians win, taking Southern Manchuria from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Korea Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea Russians win, taking Korea from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur 1 aaGun moved from Northern Manchuria to Korea 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Russia 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Karelia to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Kursk 8 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Samara to Komi 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Stalingrad 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 2 infantry moved from Samara to Stalingrad 1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky Place Units - Russians 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Siberia 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Stalingrad 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 5 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6 Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -3.83
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@max334 said in PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334:
@nikola1975 You brought 2 subs to the battle, but only hits from my DD can be assigned to your subs. Any hits from scrambling planes can only be assigned to your planes unless you bring your own DD to the battle. I think thats the rule…Is that your understanding as well?
No, the hits from scrambling planes can be assigned to the attacking subs because the defender has a destroyer. Whether the attacker has a destroyer does not matter as to whether defending planes can hit attacking subs.
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@gamerman01 thank you, understood, but it just didn’t seem quite right for the attacker to be able to use the defenders destroyer to his advantage. If it was a cruiser instead of a destroyer then subs could not be taken as casualties from ftr hits; is that correct?
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@gamerman01 Can the attacker assign hits to his subs in this situation: Attacker attacks with 2 subs, a DD and 4 ftrs; defender defends with a cruised and 3 ftrs
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Again, here is the rule:
Can’t Be Hit by Air Units: When attacking or defending, hits scored by air units can’t be assigned to submarines unless
there is a destroyer that is friendly to the air units in the battle Page 33 from Europe rule book. Allies dd are not friendly to axis.
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@max334 said in PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334:
@gamerman01 thank you, understood, but it just didn’t seem quite right for the attacker to be able to use the defenders destroyer to his advantage. If it was a cruiser instead of a destroyer then subs could not be taken as casualties from ftr hits; is that correct?
Yes. And yes, defending destroyers can work to the attacker’s advantage
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@max334 said in PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334:
@gamerman01 Can the attacker assign hits to his subs in this situation: Attacker attacks with 2 subs, a DD and 4 ftrs; defender defends with a cruised and 3 ftrs
NO, the defender can’t “see” the subs, and all the subs can do is attack the cruiser. Maximum number of hits have to be taken (defender can’t say the attacking fighters hit the cruiser if the subs score at least 1 hit)
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@max334 said in PtV Nikola1975 (axis+6) vs Max334:
Again, here is the rule:
Can’t Be Hit by Air Units: When attacking or defending, hits scored by air units can’t be assigned to submarines unless
there is a destroyer that is friendly to the air units in the battle Page 33 from Europe rule book. Allies dd are not friendly to axis.
The DD has to be friendly, if its hostile, then subs can not be taken as casualties.The DD is friendly to the defending planes. That’s what that means.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 6
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 5 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 24 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 24 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway 2 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 marines, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands 2 armour moved from Shantung to Southern Manchuria 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang Japanese take Northern Sinkiang from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi 1 artillery moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Eastern India 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 3 fighters moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Eastern India 1 fighter moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 cruiser moved from 43 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Eastern India UK_Pacific roll AA dice in Eastern India : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 bomber killed by AA Bombing raid in Eastern India rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Eastern India causes 3 damage total. Battle in 40 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 40 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 40 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Marshall Islands Battle in Southern Manchuria Japanese attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Southern Manchuria Japanese win, taking Marshall Islands from Americans, taking Southern Manchuria from Chinese with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 4.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hunan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Battle in 132 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 132 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser in 132 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC lost in 132 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 132 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 marine in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 marine owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 marine Battle in Kwangsi Japanese attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi Japanese win, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Midway Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Midway, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Midway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Midway, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Midway, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Midway Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 132 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Eastern India to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_minor placed in Malaya 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Shantung 2 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone Japanese undo move 6. 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0.33 Americans regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -0.67 UK_Pacific AA : 0.67 ANZAC regular : -0.83
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Those 3 trns in sz20 are within range of my bomber. How would you like to protect them