Are civilians "insane" to military men and women?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @cystic:

    i gotta’ admit - the offers to join the army are pretty sweet.  The sign-up bonus for 4 years is amazing, given a captain’s rank, and a salary/benefits comparable to what i’m already making.
    Too bad i may be ordered to kill people.

    Actually, as a Doctor, the only way I can imagine you being required to kill someone is if they break into your hospital and start shooting helpless patients.  I would think, in that situation, you would loose your will and at least wound those killing your patients so they have to stop.

    But the odds of that happening are pretty slim now.


  • @Jennifer:

    @cystic:

    i gotta’ admit - the offers to join the army are pretty sweet.  The sign-up bonus for 4 years is amazing, given a captain’s rank, and a salary/benefits comparable to what i’m already making.
    Too bad i may be ordered to kill people.

    Actually, as a Doctor, the only way I can imagine you being required to kill someone is if they break into your hospital and start shooting helpless patients.  I would think, in that situation, you would loose your will and at least wound those killing your patients so they have to stop.

    But the odds of that happening are pretty slim now.

    why is that?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Well, bear in mind I know nothing about the Canadian military, but in the American Army (AA) our Doctors are entrenched well behind the action where they can treat the wounded.  They arn’t even issued guns, nor do they need to qualify like soldiers.

    Actually, they don’t even go through any combat training at all.  In fact, the only training doctors get are the rudimentaries of military customs, history and proceedures so they can function in the team without causing too much trouble.

    MDs get a direct commission as a Captain (0-3 paygrade) and medical specialists (neurologist, orthopedics, etc) get a direct commission to Major (0-4).


  • Apparently i would have to go through basic training if i entered, and we are commonly housed on army bases.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea. Doctors are housed on army bases (or they can get private housing) here too.  But our doctors don’t go through BCT-B (Basic Combat Training Battalion) they just show proof of their license and take a 4 week class on military customs and curtesies at Ft. Lewis, WA.


  • Ditto Zooey: stupid people are everywhere.  And if you don’t know the subject at hand, you are likely to make incorrect assumptions.

    Ditto GG: you signed up for service, so….

    Anyway, to claim that “regular work” is only 40 hours a week is not correct.  I hold two jobs for over 50 hours.  Also, did you forget about your field, Jen?  IT work is a constant job.  You get calls at home.  You get calls on vacation.  Ditto CC’s work - he’s been run through the mill over and over I’m sure.

    I realize these guys are probably just venting, but not only did they volunteer, they are being trained as soldiers.  You don’t learn to kill & survive by watching the game on the couch eating potato chips.  My only hope is that you never have to utilize that training.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea, but Jermo, most people consider a full time job as “40 hours.”  I always included the time travelling too and from the clients/office as well.  So I actually worked closer to 14.5 hours a day, 6 days a week and was on call on Sunday.

    Thus, upgrading to 19.5 hours a day, 7 days a week is nothing. wink


  • @Jennifer:

    Yea, but Jermo, most people consider a full time job as "40 hours."  I always included the time travelling too and from the clients/office as well.  So I actually worked closer to 14.5 hours a day, 6 days a week and was on call on Sunday.

    Thus, upgrading to 19.5 hours a day, 7 days a week is nothing. wink

    This is a little crazy.
    I have the odd “20-hour day” - fortunately my week is rounded out with a the odd 14 and 16 hour days, with two 8-hour days thrown in.  The odd weekend i’ll do a couple of 12-hour shifts.
    SOOOO much better than residency - 1/4 days i’d do 30-hours straight with 12 hours working the other two.  Mind you - i got 2 weekends off over a 2 month period . . . .


  • I have life SO easy!

    M-F, average 11 hours a day.
    About 1 Saturday a month I have to work
    About 2 holidays a year (of 10) I have to work.
    About a dozen overnight trips a year.

    Time and a half OT.  3 weeks of vacation, a week sick (and of course 2 weeks worth of holidays).

    Paid for drive time… and I average about 250-300 miles a day :-)

    Am I lucky or what???  :-D

  • 2007 AAR League

    I dont work right now. AHH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA. :lol: :-P 8-) :-D :-) :mrgreen: :wink: :roll: :evil:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea, well, now you see why I re-enlisted, CC.  Easier working days, less responsibility, much better benefits, a lot less stress, longer life expectancy….

    Ah well…I hear teaching’s a breeze compared to being a senior project manager…

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