• It would be easier for most people to able to play the game if the pieces needed to play came from as few games as possible.  Most gamers on this forum are likely to have Axis and Allies Original and Revised (maybe even several copies of each).  But the majority of players will not have Axis and Allies Original, Revised, Diplomacy and Attack.  How about making all the pieces needed in order to play from AA original, AA revised, and Attack?

    -Dreadnought(DN)- The British could us the  AAR British battleship piece and the Germans coud use the AAR Russian battleship piece.  This would keep the piece identical in design.
    -Battlecruiser(BC)-use the  AAR Japanese battleship
    -Battleship(BB)-use the AAR USA battleship
    -Old Battleship(OBB)-use the AAR German battleship
    -Armored CruiserAC)-use the AA original battleship
    -Light Cruiser(CL)-use battleships from eagle games attack
    -Destroyer(DD)-use cruisers from eagle games Attack
    -Torpedo Boats(TB)-use destroyers from eagle games attack


  • You can delete the “battleship” because unfortunatly on a purist level they were dreadnoughts and older ships of this class were called pre-dreadnoughts or old battleships but not battleships. Ill revise the numbers and it should look better. I got some really good rules coming up that will add alot of fun things including additional “what if pieces” Should have it ready by dec 30

    Any other ideas??? how bout this… what would you rank each of those admirals? provide a number less than 15 for each admiral. Id like the german to be higher ranked than the english counterparts.

    Germany:
    Vice- Admiral Hipper
    Vice-Admiral Scheer
    Rear-Admiral Behncke

    England:
    Admiral Jellicoe
    Vice-Admiral Beatty


  • @Imperious:

    You can delete the “battleship” because unfortunatly on a purist level they were dreadnoughts and older ships of this class were called pre-dreadnoughts or old battleships but not battleships. Ill revise the numbers and it should look better. I got some really good rules coming up that will add alot of fun things including additional “what if pieces” Should have it ready by dec 30

    Any other ideas??? how bout this… what would you rank each of those admirals? provide a number less than 15 for each admiral. Id like the german to be higher ranked than the english counterparts.

    Germany:
    Vice- Admiral Hipper
    Vice-Admiral Scheer
    Rear-Admiral Behncke

    England:
    Admiral Jellicoe
    Vice-Admiral Beatty

    It’s difficult to give a number ranking for each of these officers without knowing any specific factors that you might be using in order to assign a set value.

    However, from what I know about them and just read:
    Hipper:12
    Scheer:11
    Behncke:7

    Jellico:9
    Beatty:8

    Jellico and Beatty could be argued to death over who was better overall. 
    Hipper and Scheer to a lesser degree.Â

    I agree that the German Officers should be ranked higher than the British.  They definately accomplished more, with less in the battle.

    Thanks. Got the Jutland file.  Should have time to look through it all tomorrow.


  • I have made many changes since… check what is posted here for additional details. I like your ratings and i was thinking along the same lines, except id boost all of them a little bit perhaps +5. just a thought.


  • Update:
    Ruleset 100%
    Counters are 100%
    player maps are 100%
    common player map ~100%

    All done will post something within a week. playtesting going on

    Wait till you see the ship counters! they are some of the best i have ever seen. Yes… even better than avalanche games “war at sea” series.


  • OK in 1-2 more days everything will be available for a free download so enjoy it. If you have any questions about how the rules work post them here.


  • OK the game is finished! rules can be found here:

    http://advancedaxisandallies.com/images/JUTLAND.pdf

    My web worker posted the wrong pictures for the pieces (missing german capital ships and too many extra u boats)… ill get this fixed so you can get the rest of the game… at least you can see what the game looks like:

    http://advancedaxisandallies.com/page21.html

    The larger map fits together, while you will need to print two (or more) copies of the small map… one for each player.

    It is my gift to this forum with my compliments!


  • Wow, excellent job IL!  Nice choice of design with the counters too.

    Quick question on the numbers assigned to the top two German Admirals.  What were some of the deciding factors used for assigning the numbers to Hipper and Scheer?  Did Hipper get a 16 as compared to Scheers 12 mainly because he was more experienced?  Or becuase of the position he held at the time of the battle?


  • The counters did not come out right… They are perfect but the dummy who scanned them did a vary poor job. All this will be corrected soon. Dont download anything till its perfect and it will be. THe decision for ratings was based on what i felt the game needed i used your template but added more numbers due to what i felt would develop in battles. I also used the ranks to influence this a bit. I can still tweek them if further playtesting warrants.


  • All is fixed and its now time to get your free boardgame… yes free! just download it and buy a few little items.


  • I’m about a year late, but this is really impressive! I look forward to reviewing the rules in more detail.


  • LOL… yea thats been a long time ago. The game plays very well with basic search and engagements.

    using the Zeppelins, subs and carrier make for additional fun.

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