• @Jennifer:

    …This is the exact point I was trying to make when America sent billions to help after the Tsunami and they, the locals, were thumbing their nose at us for it.

    This is not the point. The point is:
    -that you send your troops and insist that they carry guns AND you don’t allow foreign helpers to enter the flooded areas.
    -that your president overrules foreign laws (like in Australia) yet Australians embassy workers are denied any help or information about the 20-odd Ozzies missing.

    That is the point.


  • I meant no offense to my fellow Canadians, just a little of topic humor. It’s great to get any help we can, and a shame to see the people taking advantage of the suffering without doing something to ease it. :oops:


  • @MagicBoot:

    I meant no offense to my fellow Canadians, just a little of topic humor. It’s great to get any help we can, and a shame to see the people taking advantage of the suffering without doing something to ease it. :oops:

    I wasn’t offended, btw. It is a pretty old joke up here actually.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @F_alk:

    @Jennifer:

    …This is the exact point I was trying to make when America sent billions to help after the Tsunami and they, the locals, were thumbing their nose at us for it.

    This is not the point. The point is:
    -that you send your troops and insist that they carry guns AND you don’t allow foreign helpers to enter the flooded areas.
    -that your president overrules foreign laws (like in Australia) yet Australians embassy workers are denied any help or information about the 20-odd Ozzies missing.

    That is the point.

    You mean we used government assets and when those assets were being shot at we insisted they carry means of protecting themselves…sorry, didn’t know protecting yourself was wrong. Maybe we shoudl send the German military out without guns into a hostile area where violent criminals can shoot at them all day and not let them protect themselves.

    Sheesh. You never learn do you? Why don’t you just elect another hitler and get it over with.


  • Sheesh. You never learn do you? Why don’t you just elect another hitler and get it over with.

    The stuff that comes out of your mouth never ceases to amaze me…


  • Frankly, the same goes for you and Falk, Haxor, so why don’t all three of you (Falk, Haxor, and Jen) shove it, or take it somewhere else? That ain’t what this thread is about. Jesus, this is the Mod’s job, why am I doing it?


  • The Internet - it’s serious business I guess now :roll: Since I need to “shove it” now from a mod in training, can you inform me how and what to shove?

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    At the risk of sounding like a petulent little child, Hax started it. If he’d learn anything about history, current events or reality maybe he’d be a bit more intelligent….rather he decides to attack his critiques not on the merits of their arguements but with name calling and slander much in the same way Hitler attacked the Jews.


  • @haxorboy:

    Sheesh. You never learn do you? Why don’t you just elect another hitler and get it over with.

    The stuff that comes out of your mouth never ceases to amaze me…

    Actually - i agree with you hb.
    Jen - this is patently stupid. And rude. Perhaps worse. Smarten up.


  • @Jennifer:

    At the risk of sounding like a petulent little child, Hax started it.

    no, no he didn’t.
    you did when you derailled the thread with more complaints about how American guns were unappreciated in Tsunami-ridden parts of the world.

    If he’d learn anything about history, current events or reality maybe he’d be a bit more intelligent….rather he decides to attack his critiques not on the merits of their arguements but with name calling and slander much in the same way Hitler attacked the Jews.

    Hax simply commented on a line that amazes most sentient beings like:

    Why don’t you just elect another hitler and get it over with

    to one of our German posters. The implications of that are significant.
    Also no one on this thread had indulged in the kind of name-calling and slander that you describe quite the way you had with your comments.

    Now this is not the thread for this kind of ridiculous comments. If you are going to be silly and petty - PM each other.


  • @Jennifer:

    At the risk of sounding like a petulent little child, Hax started it. .

    ROFL!!!

    Finally! Something that doesn’t involve Stuka! SCORE!!!


  • rather he decides to attack his critiques not on the merits of their arguements but with name calling and slander much in the same way Hitler attacked the Jews.

    If this isn’t a classic example of trolling/flaming, I don’t know what is :lol: Ri-f…ing-diculous.


  • :D


  • If this was wartime, the whole topic would have been deleted. Honestly, Nut is right, CC is simply trying to point out how Canada is helping, and you start some of your petty arguments!

    BTW, thanks CC.


  • Hey, I agree with Jen. Frannkly, I am suprised that the rest of the world is helping at all seeing how it is oh so fashionable to hate America. I have not done the search yet, but I am willing to bet that if you searched for “Muslim response katrina” you could find a butt load of pictures of “peace loving good natured muslims” dancing in the street.

    Canada is not the same as the middle east. But you can be sure that thier envy/resentment of America is still a large part of thier society. My cousin was there a couple of years ago and he didn’t want to talk to anyone because if most found out he was American they would give him crap, or just be rude. Hey, thanks for the help, and I mean that with all sincerity. But I am of the opinion that we would be better served taking care of ourselves rather than sending billions in aid to countries who hate us, and once that aid is recieved having the “thank you” be “what, is this it?”

    In short, I don’t want canadian help, german help, or help from our fairy god mother. I want the 300 million back that went to the tsunami. I want the $ back that went to Africa for aids (as if no americans have aids). How can I be so heartless? Are these tragedies caused by americans? Do we have any interest (other than “humanitarian”) with these countries? No on both accounts, so screw em. Not our problem. These people are unappreciative at best, our enemies at worst and they are owed nothing from us.

    If these countries and thier people were REAL allies of the US than that would be different. For example, I have no problem sending aid to Kuwait, both the government and the people are friendly to the US. Same is mostly true of S. Korea.


  • @marine36:

    If this was wartime, .

    it is….


  • Well Zooey72,

    It appears that your “betters” disagree with you.
    Just curious - do you live in the damaged areas?
    Anyway - i very nearly shed a tear after reading the response by Wilkins today. It made me feel good about what we are doing and i hope that if there is an opportunity that we can do some more:

    Bush thanks Canada and the world
    Last Updated Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:40:28 EDT
    CBC News
    Canada tops the list for thank-yous from the United States for its response to the Hurricane Katrina tragedy.
    President George Bush Friday offered thanks to Canada and other countries for their “outpouring of compassion” and substantial relief for the countless U.S. victims of Hurricane Katrina.

    Earlier this week, U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins effusively thanked Canada as well. “The aid pouring from all across Canada has been truly overwhelming,” Wilkins said in Vancouver. “Many countries are offering help, nobody more so than Canada…You’re at the top of the list and for that we will always be grateful.”

    President Bush said “I want to thank the world community for its prayers and for the offers of assistance that have come from all around the world.” The president listed the aid offered by a host of countries, rich and poor alike. He said even war-torn Afghanistan has pledged $100,000 in aid.

    “Canada has sent ships with disaster supplies,” Bush said. “Air Canada’s planes assisted in the evacuation.”

    Three Canadian warships - the destroyer HMCS Athabaskan, frigates HMCS Ville de Quebec and HMCS Toronto - and the Coast Guard ship Sir William Alexander left Halifax on Tuesday packed with relief supplies, helicopters to deliver them and about 1,000 Canadian Forces personnel ready for a variety of chores. They are expected to arrive off the U.S. Gulf Coast early next week.

    Air Canada provided shuttle flights to help in the evacuation of about 25,000 people from New Orleans to San Antonio, Texas. Air Canada also flew a cargo of bottled water and relief supplies to New Orleans.

    Canadian military planes took Canadian Red Cross and government officials to work in the disaster areas. About 35 Canadian military divers are helping with inspecting dikes and clearing waterways. A shipment of supplies requested by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has arrived in Atlanta from Canada. Donations are pouring in from the provinces.

    The Vancouver Urban Search and Rescue Team worked in St. Bernard Parish, about 30 km east of New Orleans, rescuing 119 stranded people before the U.S. military took over this week. The team’s leader Tim Armstrong said, “We were the first relief effort that made their way there.”

    In Los Angeles, TV news anchor Hal Fishman of KTLA Channel 5 praised Canada’s assistance saying “The country has embraced us and offered support on myriad levels.” He said other countries have extended aid, but Canada stands above the rest in terms of types of support and the different sectors which have offered help.

    Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi said, “We actually got utility crews in from Canada.”


    just for the record zooey72 - you’d rather that there were no Air Canada planes/utility crews/red cross cash/elite search-and-rescue crews/disaster supplies etc. from across the border?


  • I’m with Zooey…tear down the Statue of Liberty, raise the walls and let the world fend for itself man, cuz it’s not our problem.

    :roll:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Zooey72:

    Hey, I agree with Jen. Frannkly, I am suprised that the rest of the world is helping at all seeing how it is oh so fashionable to hate America. I have not done the search yet, but I am willing to bet that if you searched for “Muslim response katrina” you could find a butt load of pictures of “peace loving good natured muslims” dancing in the street.

    Canada is not the same as the middle east. But you can be sure that thier envy/resentment of America is still a large part of thier society. My cousin was there a couple of years ago and he didn’t want to talk to anyone because if most found out he was American they would give him crap, or just be rude. Hey, thanks for the help, and I mean that with all sincerity. But I am of the opinion that we would be better served taking care of ourselves rather than sending billions in aid to countries who hate us, and once that aid is recieved having the “thank you” be “what, is this it?”

    In short, I don’t want canadian help, german help, or help from our fairy god mother. I want the 300 million back that went to the tsunami. I want the $ back that went to Africa for aids (as if no americans have aids). How can I be so heartless? Are these tragedies caused by americans? Do we have any interest (other than “humanitarian”) with these countries? No on both accounts, so screw em. Not our problem. These people are unappreciative at best, our enemies at worst and they are owed nothing from us.

    If these countries and thier people were REAL allies of the US than that would be different. For example, I have no problem sending aid to Kuwait, both the government and the people are friendly to the US. Same is mostly true of S. Korea.

    I want their help. My entire post was thanking them for every little dollar they had except for one point where i referenced the world’s negative reaction to the billions we sent to help with the Tsunami last year. That’s all. And that reference was only to tell my fellow Americans that we should just be grateful we get anything because NO ONE OWES ANYONE ANYTHING ON THIS PLANET.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @haxorboy:

    I’m with Zooey…tear down the Statue of Liberty, raise the walls and let the world fend for itself man, cuz it’s not our problem.

    :roll:

    Raise the walls and shoot anyone trying to get in. I like the statue, it’s the only thing the French have ever given us outside of grief, death and war.

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