13L G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs seththenewb (Allies +12) game 2

[seth4god]

Please use this file. Got distracted by trying to figure out why China wouldn’t be able to DOW. Forgot to make a crucial retrograde movement.  :-D

[wheatbeer]

The issue is address on page 35 of the European rulebook (in the added section for Global rules) under China, Political Situation.

“China can’t declare war on a European Axis power unless one of those powers first declares war on it”

It would be funny if I could secure Hong Kong with Italy … but I am pretty sure you won’t let me get away with that now  :lol:

[wheatbeer]

I don’t see any file attached to that message.

[seth4god]

forgot the file

[seth4god]

@wheatbeer:

The issue is address on page 35 of the European rulebook (in the added section for Global rules) under China, Political Situation.

“China can’t declare war on a European Axis power unless one of those powers first declares war on it”

It would be funny if I could secure Hong Kong with Italy … but I am pretty sure you won’t let me get away with that now  :lol:

My riposte would be that Italy is now a global power. They lost the Euro nomenclature when they took Burma, West India, and built an IC there :wink:

Very well then, edit accordingly. Um, that infantry goes back to Yunnan. And one less inf place to Yunnan in favor of another infantry in Jehol. It’s probably easier to just pluck the guy from Burma and add one to Jehol

[seth4god]

Wait, NO!

I can indeed take Burma!  :-D

Political Situation: China begins the game at war with Japan. China can’t declare war on a European Axis power
unless one of those powers first either declares war on China or moves units into a territory into which Chinese units
are allowed to move. A state of war between China and one Axis power won’t affect its relations with the other Axis
powers.

So leave the edits aside, China owns Burma until you do something about it.  :evil:

It helps to read the entire rule  :roll:

[seth4god]

@seththenewb:

@wheatbeer:

The issue is address on page 35 of the European rulebook (in the added section for Global rules) under China, Political Situation.

“China can’t declare war on a European Axis power unless one of those powers first declares war on it”

It would be funny if I could secure Hong Kong with Italy … but I am pretty sure you won’t let me get away with that now  :lol:

My riposte would be that Italy is now a global power. They lost the Euro nomenclature when they took Burma, West India, and built an IC there :wink:

Hehe, my sarcastic wit was right for once! I was thinking not being able to DOW is an injustice when Burma is Italian. So . .  . go ahead and try to take Burma if you want. China can at least try to get it back.  :-D

[wheatbeer]

@seththenewb:

It helps to read the entire rule  :roll:

My rulebook (OOB) doesn’t have that sentence  :-P

I wasn’t aware that was part of the errata. Or do you have a rev2 rulebook?

[seth4god]

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Europe_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf

[seth4god]

Takes awhile to load, at least on my connection. Which is why I went along with what you originally wrote until it finished loading up.

[wheatbeer]

I still learn new things  :lol:

I finally have a rev 2 rulebook  :-D … thanks for the link.

[seth4god]

Well, in that case

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/downloads

Pacific rule book is 3/4ths down that first mess of links, just under the Europe one.

[wheatbeer]

On an unrelated note … this is the first game I’ve played in which Iceland was important.

[seth4god]

This is a first for me as well for Iceland. It’s also the first game where I’ve had to worry about whether China could DOW against Italy and worry about Italy can opening Chinese terr for Japan . .  .

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Italians take Bessarabia from Russians
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Baltic States
            2 fighters moved from Bulgaria to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Baltic States
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  3/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States
                Italians win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 aaGun and 1 artillery moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 aaGun moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Persia
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 3 destroyers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            4 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania

Place Units - Italians
            3 mech_infantrys placed in West India
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 54 / 77
    Russians : 30 / 35
    Japanese : 49 / 59
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 21 / 22
    British : 15 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 24 / 40
    ANZAC : 10 / 11
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[seth4god]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to New Guinea

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in New Guinea
                ANZAC attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                ANZAC win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from New Guinea to 54 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[seth4god]

France does nothing, Germany’s up. Are you hitting the fleet or doing something else?

[wheatbeer]

Germany won’t attack SZ123 … I didn’t run the math, but eyeballing it, my odds look very poor.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
                  Germans take Novgorod from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
                  Germans take Ukraine from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Finland
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Finland
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Turkmenistan
                  Germans take Kazakhstan from Russians
                  Germans take Turkmenistan from Russians

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Finland
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Finland, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  2/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            11 armour and 24 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
            9 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Finland to Western Germany
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters moved from 105 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
            1 carrier and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Finland to Norway

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 88 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 63 / 88
    Russians : 21 / 35
    Japanese : 49 / 59
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 21 / 22
    British : 15 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 24 / 40
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[seth4god]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Baltic States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            2 artilleries moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Caucasus
                Russians attack with 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Caucasus from Italians with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Volgograd
                Russians attack with 3 armour, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
            2 fighters moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov

Place Units - Russians
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs