13L G40.2 Gamerman01 (Allies +9) vs. Jeff28 (Axis)

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

maybe the game does it turn 4?

I’m sure it does, but technically it should be end of US3

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

Have you ever strat bombed the USA on J4?

Cause I haven’t but I’m always interested in a new strategy.

No - just pointing out that it could possibly matter.

[gamerman01]

USA got super subs
Thought I’d let you know because it doesn’t seem obvious and I don’t know how carefully you review all the events of my turns.  Didn’t want it to catch you by surprise, because it certainly wouldn’t if we were playing face to face

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Egypt

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Egypt, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                  Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania

Place Units - Italians
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 33 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Trans-Jordan : 1 flag
    Alexandria : 1 flag
    Egypt : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 harbour
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Romania : 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Eastern Poland : 1 armour
    93 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag
    97 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 3 transports
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    98 Sea Zone : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 36 / 49
    Russians : 33 / 36
    Japanese : 48 / 62
    Americans : 52 / 78
    Chinese : 5 / 12
    British : 33 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 11 / 6
    Italians : 21 / 38
    ANZAC : 14 / 30
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 39 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to New South Wales: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from South Australia: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Politics - French
            French takes Political Action: Political Action French To War With Japanese
                French succeeds on action: Political Action French To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                French succeeds on action: Political Action French To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - French
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                French attack with 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                French win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[gamerman01]

@Gamerman01:

French succeeds on action: Political Action French To War With Japanese

French are diplomatic geniuses.  They succeeded.  8-)

And then they went on to successfully sink a Japanese transport!  Such studs!  :mrgreen:

Course they FAILED to block the Japanese with a destroyer on J3  :lol:

[Jeff28]

Help me out. You spend 5 bucks on 1 tech token that doesnt stay and rolled the key USA and British techs.

Right? Are you serious?

Have you hacked the dice server?

[boldfresh]

no, gamer is TRADITIONALLY more fortunate than average on tech rolls.  he is “charmed” as you might say, which is why i would NEVER play him in a tech game.

good luck Jeff!!  :-o

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

no, gamer is TRADITIONALLY more fortunate than average on tech rolls.  he is “charmed” as you might say, which is why i would NEVER play him in a tech game.

good luck Jeff!!   :-o

He’s right.

But I have spent more than you probably think.  I have spent 35 IPC’s on 7 dice and got 2 hits.  That’s above average, but not a whole lot.

Upper 33%ile where 50% is the median.

Bold has experienced much higher success rates from me than that in the past, and at the worst possible moments.  Consider yourself lucky so far.  :-)

[gamerman01]

I mean, heck, I got super subs when the USA could not attack anybody!  Watch out when I get LRA when you’re not expecting it!!

[gamerman01]

Put another way, with any LESS success, I would be UNLUCKY.  1 hit in 7 tries is of course not lucky.  So I have to be either above or below average right now.  Sorry, but I’m above.

You should be more worried about all the other devastating dice results you’ve endured!  :evil:

[boldfresh]

granted, tech certainly has a much diminished effect in G40 compared to AA50, but still, there is already so much more strategy in G40 that i have not yet had the slightest desire to add tech to the mix.

[gamerman01]

@Jeff28:

Help me out. You spend 5 bucks on 1 tech token that doesnt stay and rolled the key USA and British techs.

USA Shipyards and LRA are right up there too.  I wouldn’t call them THE key techs  :-)

What about British rockets or paratroopers?  Now THOSE would KILL
I still haven’t recouped the 15 I’ve spend with the UK on shipyards yet.  Quit yer whinin’ and play!!  :wink:

[gamerman01]

1 more comment while I’m waiting for you!

You can’t complain when you haven’t bought any!  You can’t win if you don’t play!  You could have had 4 techs by now, but we’ll never know!  :-D

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :4

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                  Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            3 armour, 4 artilleries, 21 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Poland to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Romania to Belarus
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Poland to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 21 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 21 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Belarus, round 1 :  9/33 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 21 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British , 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Russians Submerged
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            10 artilleries moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Poland
            1 bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Yugoslavia
            1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 43 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Gibraltar : 1 flag, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Algeria : 1 artillery
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor
    Western Germany : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
    Poland : 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
    Germany : 1 factory_major
    Belarus : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 21 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    Baltic States : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 2 armour, 10 artilleries and 6 mech_infantrys
    Bessarabia : 1 flag
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    113 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 transports
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    97 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 48
    Russians : 29 / 36
    Japanese : 48 / 62
    Americans : 52 / 78
    Chinese : 5 / 12
    British : 31 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 11 / 6
    Italians : 21 / 38
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :4

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                  Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
                  Russians take Norway from Germans
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Kansu
            1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Kansu
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Kansu

[gamerman01]

Zone 113 sub submerge or fight?

[gamerman01]

Map

[gamerman01]

Look at the situation in Siberia, Bold.

If I hadn’t attacked Korea on R1 and if he attacked Amur on J1, I wouldn’t be able to stop him in Siberia right now like I am.
He could just go right around me.

Now maybe I should have retreated full bore toward Moscow and not stopped, but even then it’s good to have the bottleneck up there.  He could go north from China or south to China at will, and flank me easily.  Not to mention that air could freely pass over Mongolia.

No, I’m still sure the attack on Korea R1 is definitely the move to make.  At least for me :)