@Ol’:
Hey Bold….the 9ftrs in sz61 came from Haw…that is 4 spaces traveled and they cannot go anywhere.
sorry obg, had 61 and 60 reversed in my mind when i typed up the combat move. the haw ftrs went to 60 and the z50 ftrs went to z61, my bad on the typing there.
technically the typing was of course wrong and that’s my fault entirely of course. it was a pure and simple mistake of thinking i had the map memorized in my head while typing the move. there would be no reason whatsoever to force my fighters to remain in z61, as i’m sure you can see. you have caught me again and it’s up to you on how you want me to proceed. if you insist that i adjust my noncombat move to match the combat typing, it’s your right.
@Ol’:
Hey Bold….the 9ftrs in sz61 came from Haw…that is 4 spaces traveled and they cannot go anywhere.
sorry obg, had 61 and 60 reversed in my mind when i typed up the combat move. the haw ftrs went to 60 and the z50 ftrs went to z61, my bad on the typing there.
technically the typing was of course wrong and that’s my fault entirely of course. it was a pure and simple mistake of thinking i had the map memorized in my head while typing the move. there would be no reason whatsoever to force my fighters to remain in z61, as i’m sure you can see. you have caught me again and it’s up to you on how you want me to proceed. if you insist that i adjust my noncombat move to match the combat typing, it’s your right.
by no reason whatsoever, i’m referring to me not having a reason. you of course would have a reason… :-)
once again, i have to apologize for a typing error. let me know what you want to do.
i guess if you were to insist that i move 5 acc to z60, it would probably be the game right there. i promise you i had no intention of moving the fleet to z61 and that this was a simple sea zone dyslexia. i hope you will agree and this very good game can continue rather than focusing on a technicality. as i said in the G opening, i would have been willing to allow you to reroll your entire turn if you wanted to change the combat move and add two tanks going to bst. if you want, i’d be happy to reroll the US round (where the US took no casualties). if you feel like i actually intended to leave the fighters in z61 without movement, let me know, but if we were playing IRL, i promise you that you would have seen me lift the fighters off haw and place them in z60 on the map.
i commend your attention to detail. i think there are only a few players on the site that would have even noticed. i just hope you wont insist to hang me on these reversed sea zones… :| again, i wish i had handled the G1 differently and i would have for SURE if i had known how much it upset you. i am at your mercy obg, completely caught with my hands down. i haven’t studied the map to see if there is any way that moving the acc to z61 could be mitigated, but my gut reaction is it would be complete disaster for the US and cost the allies the game pretty much immediately.
for purposes of honor in this game, which i believe by now we are both interested in, i am willing to redo the US turn, even to sacrifice material. but to say that accidentally reversing those two sea zones should cost me the game outright doesn’t sit quite right with me, and i doubt it does with you either. i hope you were just pointing it out as a discrepancy and are not implying that i move at least 5 acc to 61. and if you are, that you are doing it tongue in cheek since you know it would cost me the game. and of course to make me squirm for a while since you have the cold hard facts of the typing sitting right there on the page… :-) i think it very unlikely that you will actually insist on a full scale change in the game over this. i can appreciate all these possibilities, and the jury is out, looking forward to hear what you think is the best way to handle it.
Well, I can honestly say I am not sure yet. It looks to me if I let it stand as you intended instead of as typed, that pretty much means Japan is toast and it would cost me the game. Still thinking about it and have not made up my mind yet.
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
i think you are following my overarching plan here, which was obviously to block in both 61 and 60 and move everything to z50. should be pretty clear that sending 9 ftr from haw to 61 was not intended, whether japan is in trouble or not. i assure you, i was not thinking that i was so far ahead that i could afford to sacrifice 9 ftr and 5 acc for absolutely no reason whatsoever… :-)
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
Actually, I did think you were going to send the fleet to sz61 because I think I would have myself
I am headed back into the plant for work…so still thinking and running some scenarios
@Ol’:
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
Actually, I did think you were going to send the fleet to sz61 because I think I would have myself
if i would have, i would have sent the UK fleet ahead of it. that’s what i meant by “part” of my fleet.
i don’t think it’s the end of the game if you lose japan by the way. but at least it won’t be a runaway for the axis.
@Ol’:
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
Actually, I did think you were going to send the fleet to sz61 because I think I would have myself
are you saying you would have sent all of the available US fleet to 61? if i had intended to do so, i obviously would have taken the battleships to ensure not taking a hit from your destroyer… :-)
@Ol’:
yeah i think japan is in some real trouble which has taken a lot of hard work as your pacific game has greatly improved, but it needs to be since Russia already fell. if i lose a big chunk of the US fleet, i think it’s game over for me. as i said, it truly was just an accidental switching of the sea zones when typing - it came as a complete surprise to me this morning when you pointed it out. there is no reason i would ever have wanted to move only a portion of my US fleet to z61, obviously.
just take your time and think it over.
To me the honorable question to be asked is whether you think i intended to send the fleet to z61 then changed my mind in noncom or if you believe it was a simple accident and there was no intent of sending the haw ftrs the extra space to 61. Since it was 9 ftr and des to each zone, everything was identical except for a 0 or 1 after the 6 :-(
Actually, I did think you were going to send the fleet to sz61 because I think I would have myself
are you saying you would have sent all of the available US fleet to 61? if i had intended to do so, i obviously would have taken the battleships to ensure not taking a hit from your destroyer… :-)
plus, i didn’t want to risk moving too fast toward z62 and risk a full scale attack from the japs (even though moving more slowly builds risk turn after turn against the allies since russia has fallen). i’ve had some really bad dice against me lately, notably by commander Jenn (some of the best i’ve EVER seen) so was playing conservatively. anyway, will wait to hear your thoughts rather before speaking further.
After looking at the scenario, I see if you sent all you could into sz61, I would be able to take them out with my bmr, ftrs, subs and dds….and still have 12-14 ftrs left…according to the combat simulator. Which would mean game over. So, that being said, let it stand as is…gives me a built in excuse if I do lose :-D
Ger15-Buy: 9 inf, 6 arm…save 0
CM
1. inf Eve/3inf art Rus => Nov inf
2. 15inf 2art Rus => Kaz
3. 51arm Rus/3bmr Ger => Per 45inf 5art 2arm 6ftr
Nov
A-4inf art
Rolls: 3@1 2@2; Total Hits: 33@1: (5, 1, 6)2@2: (2, 1)
D-inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)
Nov twlo inf
Per
aa gun
Rolls: 3@1; Total Hits: 13@1: (5, 6, 1)
bummer
Per
A-51arm 2bmr
Rolls: 51@3 2@4; Total Hits: 3451@3: (2, 2, 2, 4, 2, 6, 2, 2, 1, 3, 3, 1, 1, 1, 4, 1, 5, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 6, 2, 2, 4, 1, 6, 1, 2, 4, 2, 3, 5, 5, 5, 4, 1, 1, 5, 3, 3, 6, 4, 3, 3, 4, 2, 5, 4, 3)2@4: (6, 4)
D-45inf 5art 2arm 6ftr
Rolls: 50@2 2@3 6@4; Total Hits: 2150@2: (2, 2, 6, 6, 2, 5, 1, 3, 3, 2, 6, 1, 1, 4, 5, 1, 4, 4, 4, 1, 3, 1, 4, 5, 4, 5, 3, 1, 1, 3, 5, 3, 5, 4, 2, 6, 3, 3, 3, 5, 4, 2, 5, 5, 5, 4, 6, 3, 1, 3)2@3: (3, 3)6@4: (3, 1, 2, 1, 5, 5)
