Thank you Panther!
Any experiences with a global J3 attack?
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Thanks for the reports! :-D
I have to think on it and comparing it with my ideas.
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i did the j4 global attack last game. on round 1 i bought 2 minor ic’s for manchuria and the territory with shanghai in it (whatever that one is lol). i attacked china every where i could and took out 14 of the eastern russian infantry.
on round 2 i bought units for the ic’s and 2 transports for japan and destroyed more chinese, including the flying tigers, and more russian territories.
round 3, upgraded the shanghai ic to major, brought fleet to sz 36 and units from japan to kwangsi, china down to 2 territories
round 4, attacked phillipines (including the stuff US brought there from hawaii), borneo, kwangtung and finished off china
we called it a night after round 4 but i feel that i’m set up to take india in 2 rounds and with the major ic in shanghai and minor in manchuria, japan shouldn’t have any problems on the mainland.
In J4 the USA has declared war in the previous turn. Is it futile to wait until J4?
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quote]In J4 the USA has declared war in the previous turn. Is it futile to wait until J4?
not really, but if you attack during j3 then the US can counter US3 and attack the other axis players. Germany had a fleet in sz 87 that i didn’t want to be attacked.
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quote]In J4 the USA has declared war in the previous turn. Is it futile to wait until J4?
not really, but if you attack during j3 then the US can counter US3 and attack the other axis players. Germany had a fleet in sz 87 that i didn’t want to be attacked.
Yes… nice point… :-)
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I have been attacking J3 unless the US is postured to attack somewhere vital…if that is the case I go on J4…
Pretty tough to get going fast enough waiting until J4 though…
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I have been attacking J3 unless the US is postured to attack somewhere vital…if that is the case I go on J4…
Pretty tough to get going fast enough waiting until J4 though…
I always attack on J3. If you have let the US posture for major attack on US3 then I feel I have failed as Japan or the US is inexperienced and doesn’t realize what he is about to lose…
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One of the things I’ve tried with a J3 attack is a minor IC in FIC (thats french indo-china if anyone was wondering :-)) I also break off a chunk of the fleet, usually 1BB 2DD 1CR 1AC with 1ftr and 1 tac and several transport and place them off the coast of FIC, then posture with the rest of the fleet in the carolines, so they can respond to any major allied build up. The real key is to make sure you have Yunnan under your control at the start of turn 3. This way your airforces can strike at India proper.
From these positions you can hit the allies in all of their IPC rich tt and damn near double Japans Economy in 1 turn. Also, with the IC in FIC, you can create a self-sustaining front, allocating resources there using IPC take from the region.
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J4 lasts too long in my opinion.
Can’t wait 3 turns while my european comrades are fighting for lebensraum.
Thougt about your reports.
My first production will be:
2 subs, 2 transports
second:
2 subs, 1 artillery, 2 transports
third:
minor complex (Manchuria strategy A, FIC strategy B)
tank, artillery, 3 infantryStrategy A: Ignore the russians and hold the line in Manchuria. Get “everything” to FIC, go for Yunan in J2 and crush the chinese inf production + Flying tigers only with planes, tacs and bombers (maybe you loose 2 - 3 planes). Rush throug china and go for the russian border. Meanwhile prepare a J3 attack on UK ships, Malaysia, Kwangtung, Borno and celebs. Freeze the UK income from sumatra and java with 2 subs each. Go for a major complex in Malaysia in J4.
Strategy B: Hit the russian in J1 at Amur with all the Manchurian stuff and two loads from Japan. 10 - 11 ground units will survive. (think the russians will only pplace 1 infantry there and concentrate out of land-unit-range) The go for Moscow throug siberia. Meanwhile prepare a J3 attack on UK ships, Malaysia, Kwangtung, Borno and celebs. Freeze the UK income from sumatra and java with 2 subs each. Go for a major complex in Malaysia in J4.
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Sounds like a soild plan, may the dice gods be with you! :-D
One word of caution though, dont get yourself bogged down on the Asian mainland, remember, killing off Russia is good, but its those vital Victory Cities that win you the game in the end. Keep your eye on the prize and the game is yours :-) Good Luck!
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I also break off a chunk of the fleet, usually 1BB 2DD 1CR 1AC with 1ftr and 1 tac and several transport and place them off the coast of FIC…
Important Point.
Prevents the UK from from a “First-strike-attack” on less or unescorted japanese transports.
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My friend and I have played close to 15 games of Global since we got it. (We were able to get a copy early and both of us are super nerds that have used a lot of our free time on this game.)
At first the allies kept winning and we thought the only way to go was for to Japan to attack early to get its economy moving. Yet last game he did a J3 as the axis and defeated me. He built mostly transports and men the first couple of rounds. He then moved everything in position and attacked J3. He was able to boost Japans economy by a ton in that one turn and kept the US at 52 points the first 3 turns.
Turns out US was just not able to crack Germany by a small margin at the end of the game. It definitely helped him that US had 60 less points to spend early.
I think there are merits to keeping US out of the war as long as possible. I used to think J1 was the way to go but have since revised my thinking. Also your plan to get IC on the mainland early sounds like a good idea. Hope everything goes well.
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@Chompers#2:
I think there are merits to keeping US out of the war as long as possible. I used to think J1 was the way to go but have since revised my thinking. Also your plan to get IC on the mainland early sounds like a good idea. Hope everything goes well.
I never attack before J3 and our group has a current 4 game winning streak with the axis.
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Strategy A: Ignore the russians and hold the line in Manchuria. Get “everything” to FIC, go for Yunan in J2 and crush the chinese inf production + Flying tigers only with planes, tacs and bombers (maybe you loose 2 - 3 planes). Rush throug china and go for the russian border. Meanwhile prepare a J3 attack on UK ships, Malaysia, Kwangtung, Borno and celebs. Freeze the UK income from sumatra and java with 2 subs each. Go for a major complex in Malaysia in J4.
How does the Philipines work into this? If there are planes, you are probably going to lose a lot of transports. By this stage, I would have thought Japan would be keen to spend IPCs on something hard, like mech and tanks for the mainland, replacing lost planes, or building up the navy in Japan with destroyers and the like. Will you hit Philippines J4? expect three thranports and some bombardments would usually be enough. But maybe you need a fair bit if US fortifies it.
Just curious because I have learned a lot from this thread. And will be the Axis this coming Weekend.
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Also, was thinking…
If I was UK, I would seriously contemplate a UK2 dec of war against Japan. If anything can be hit to your advantage, why not. The Japs are just going to attack next go. Maybe the UK should think about reinforcing Yunnan on UK 2, if available, or taking it back.
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Also, was thinking…
If I was UK, I would seriously contemplate a UK2 dec of war against Japan. If anything can be hit to your advantage, why not. The Japs are just going to attack next go. Maybe the UK should think about reinforcing Yunnan on UK 2, if available, or taking it back.
No, Japan may not attack J3 to prevent the US from moving adjacent to Europe/Africa
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Japan has to wait as long as possible to attack in Global. When I play Japan I always attack round 3. No reason to give USA 30 IPC until you can compete with it.
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Also, was thinking…
If I was UK, I would seriously contemplate a UK2 dec of war against Japan. If anything can be hit to your advantage, why not. The Japs are just going to attack next go. Maybe the UK should think about reinforcing Yunnan on UK 2, if available, or taking it back.
No, Japan may not attack J3 to prevent the US from moving adjacent to Europe/Africa
They may opt for that. But this is a J3 attack thread. If UK attacks UK2, US is not in war until US4. BY J4, the UK and ANZAC have quite a few men and planes in the DEI. Maybe a J4 attack could be good.
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They may opt for that. But this is a J3 attack thread. If UK attacks UK2, US is not in war until US4. BY J4, the UK and ANZAC have quite a few men and planes in the DEI. Maybe a J4 attack could be good.
In my experience I have found that if the Japanese leave themselves open to a UK2 attack then the allies have already won the game…
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to Bodeacious:
In strategy B the philipines will be a target in J3. Most US-Players evacuate the plane from the Phillipine Islands.
to Bodeacious/Blitchga:
said before: Do not leave you transport undefended at the coast of French-Indo-China!
BB+CA+DD+DD+SS+SS+CV(2 Planes) is the minimum of ships you have to leave in the Sae zone to prevent an UK first strike.
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