The_Good_Captain (Axis) vs. VictoryFirst (Allies) | North Africa, Rommel's Last Push

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst i agree that the mine issue will be problematic. I believe if you can solve it with the “two boarders” solution, it would be worth it. As for the time it would take: I will do the ‘how to video’ with the next version of africa. when/if you finish the mines update, we will simply update the download links. to that end, i will mention in the video that there is work being done to make the mines work better.

that’s how i feel about it anyway. also, we need to work out how we can direct folks to donate. should you send me a link?

[VictoryFirst]

@The_Good_Captain

Thanks! Your opinion is very valuable. I will upload version 1.5 with some small fixes (adding the connection between Malta Convoy and Malta, and explaining how to deal with the mines in the game notes) and then reserve version 1.6 for a complete rework of the border territories.

That way, if version 1.6 takes too long, you can use version 1.5 to record your video. Version 1.5’s clunky part would only be the land mines so it is still good enough to cover the rest of the module.

Good you mention the donations. I did some research and figured out how to set up donations via PayPal. I will share the link with you via Discord. Anyone can click on it and will be directed to a page where they can donate any amount to me.

[VictoryFirst]

Also, I think the last things we need are automatic victory conditions and a Torch scenario, I will leave that for version 1.7. You can also mention this in the video.

Actually, if we use the GitHub link, the download links wouldn’t need to be updated. The GitHub link always stays the same. You just need to let people know that there is a newer version and then direct them to the GitHub repository.

I will still ask if we can get the module downloadable via TripleA though, that will by far be the easiest way. It could be susceptible to copyright infringements because some things of the OOB game are exactly copied, like the unit names, the map, the supply, and the naval sillhouettes. But Renegade games might be not as strict as Hasbro!

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: North Africa - Rommel’s Last Push

Game History

Round: 4

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Mersa Matruh to Bir Hacheim

    Non Combat Move - British
        Trigger AddCoastRoadCairo: British has 1 coast_road placed in Cairo
        Trigger AddCoastRoadMersa Matruh: British has 1 coast_road placed in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger AddCoastRoadTobruk: British has 1 coast_road placed in Tobruk
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadMersa Matruh: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadCairo: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Cairo
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadTobruk: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Cairo to Mersa Matruh

    Place Units - British
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber placed in Malta Convoy
        1 5-supply, 2 UK-scoutcars, 1 infantry and 1 matilda placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy
        Trigger FreeUKTanks: British has 2 shermen placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy

    Assign Convoy Escorts - British
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger RemoveSupplySaharaDesert: has removed 17 1-supplys and 6 5-supplys owned by Uncontrolled in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 4British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1Italian5-supplyTripoli Convoy I: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 7British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyAtlantic Ocean Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 6British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyTripoli: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 9British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 8British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyTobruk: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 5British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 3British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyBenghazi: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo4: Setting movement to 4 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo6: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger AddCarrierToSea Zone 12British: British has 1 carrier placed in Sea Zone 12
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber moved from Malta Convoy to Sea Zone 12
        3 UK-fighters moved from Malta to Sea Zone 12

    End Turn - British
        British collect 0 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Objective British Base Income: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[VictoryFirst]

Updated mine overview:

Benghazi: BEN-TOB
Tobruk: 2x BEN-TOB
Mersa Brega: BIR-BRE
Bir Hacheim: BEN-BIR, BIR-JAL, BIR-SIW
Mersa Matruh: BIR-MAT, MAT-SIW
Cairo: 5x CAI-MAT

[VictoryFirst]

So the mines in BEN-BIR, BIR-JAL, BIR-SIW are now controlled by me. The mine in BIR-MAT was already controlled by me. The mine in BIR-BRE is controlled by you

[VictoryFirst]

My bad, I am violating the stacking limits of Malta with my turn. Let me correct this…

[VictoryFirst]

I forgot that air units count against the stacking limits. Knowing this, I would not have bought an AA gun for Malta on round 3 because that means I can have one less fighter there.

For simplicity, let’s just say I bought an infantry from that money and placed it in Atlantic Ocean Convoy.

This turn I bought a bomber and a fighter and placed them in Malta Convoy. Right now, they don’t violate any stacking limits but once it is my next turn, all planes need to land and the only spot for them to land is Malta, and I can only land three planes there. So I will instead purchase a bomber, a scout car and a submarine. I will place the bomber and scout car in Atlantic Ocean Convoy and the submarine in SZ 3

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: North Africa - Rommel’s Last Push

Game History

Round: 4

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Mersa Matruh to Bir Hacheim

    Non Combat Move - British
        Trigger AddCoastRoadCairo: British has 1 coast_road placed in Cairo
        Trigger AddCoastRoadMersa Matruh: British has 1 coast_road placed in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger AddCoastRoadTobruk: British has 1 coast_road placed in Tobruk
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadMersa Matruh: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadCairo: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Cairo
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadTobruk: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Cairo to Mersa Matruh

    Place Units - British
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber placed in Malta Convoy
        1 5-supply, 2 UK-scoutcars, 1 infantry and 1 matilda placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy
        Trigger FreeUKTanks: British has 2 shermen placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy

    Assign Convoy Escorts - British
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger RemoveSupplySaharaDesert: has removed 17 1-supplys and 6 5-supplys owned by Uncontrolled in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 4British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1Italian5-supplyTripoli Convoy I: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 7British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyAtlantic Ocean Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 6British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyTripoli: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 9British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 8British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyTobruk: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 5British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 3British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyBenghazi: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo4: Setting movement to 4 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo6: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger AddCarrierToSea Zone 12British: British has 1 carrier placed in Sea Zone 12
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber moved from Malta Convoy to Sea Zone 12
        3 UK-fighters moved from Malta to Sea Zone 12

    End Turn - British
        British collect 0 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Objective British Base Income: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Malta: 1 UK-aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Atlantic Ocean Convoy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Sea Zone 12: 1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Sea Zone 3: 1 UK-submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Atlantic Ocean Convoy: 1 UK-scoutcar and 1 bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: North Africa - Rommel’s Last Push

Game History

Round: 4

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Mersa Matruh to Bir Hacheim

    Non Combat Move - British
        Trigger AddCoastRoadCairo: British has 1 coast_road placed in Cairo
        Trigger AddCoastRoadMersa Matruh: British has 1 coast_road placed in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger AddCoastRoadTobruk: British has 1 coast_road placed in Tobruk
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadMersa Matruh: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Mersa Matruh
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadCairo: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Cairo
        Trigger RemoveCoastRoadTobruk: has removed 1 coast_road owned by British in Tobruk
        1 infantry moved from Cairo to Mersa Matruh

    Place Units - British
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber placed in Malta Convoy
        1 5-supply, 2 UK-scoutcars, 1 infantry and 1 matilda placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy
        Trigger FreeUKTanks: British has 2 shermen placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy

    Assign Convoy Escorts - British
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger SetBritishAircraftToKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to true for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger ReduceMovementBritishAircraft: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger RemoveSupplySaharaDesert: has removed 17 1-supplys and 6 5-supplys owned by Uncontrolled in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 4British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1Italian5-supplyTripoli Convoy I: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 7British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyJalo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyAtlantic Ocean Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 6British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta Convoy: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyTripoli: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 9British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British1-supplyMalta: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 8British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 2British5-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1British5-supplyTobruk: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 5British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German1-supplyEl Agheila: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 3British1-supplyCairo: Uncontrolled has 1 1-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger 1German5-supplyBenghazi: Uncontrolled has 1 5-supply placed in Sahara Desert 1
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo4: Setting movement to 4 for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to UK-fighter
        Trigger RemoveKamikaze: Setting isKamikaze to false for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger IncreaseAircraftMovementTo6: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to bomber
        Trigger AddCarrierToSea Zone 12British: British has 1 carrier placed in Sea Zone 12
        1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber moved from Malta Convoy to Sea Zone 12
        3 UK-fighters moved from Malta to Sea Zone 12

    End Turn - British
        British collect 0 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Objective British Base Income: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Malta: 1 UK-aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Atlantic Ocean Convoy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Sea Zone 12: 1 UK-fighter and 1 bomber
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Sea Zone 3: 1 UK-submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Atlantic Ocean Convoy: 1 UK-scoutcar and 1 bomber
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Atlantic Ocean Convoy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Indian Ocean Convoy: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[VictoryFirst]

Trigger FreeUKTanks: British has 2 shermen placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy

This is quite funny - the unit is called “sherman” but TripleA apparently has an in-built plural feature where it creates plural forms of words on its own. As far as I know, it simply adds and “-s” to all words except for the word “infantry”, because the plural of “infantry” is also “infantry”. But if you change the word “infantry” slightly, it does add an “-s” again (“mech_infantrys”).

But for “sherman”, it detects the word “man” in it and its plural is “men”, so it turns this word into “shermen” instead of “shermans”. This is most likely an error in whatever code deals with this.

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst said in The_Good_Captain (Axis) vs. VictoryFirst (Allies) | North Africa, Rommel's Last Push:

Trigger FreeUKTanks: British has 2 shermen placed in Atlantic Ocean Convoy

This is quite funny - the unit is called “sherman” but TripleA apparently has an in-built plural feature where it creates plural forms of words on its own. As far as I know, it simply adds and “-s” to all words except for the word “infantry”, because the plural of “infantry” is also “infantry”. But if you change the word “infantry” slightly, it does add an “-s” again (“mech_infantrys”).

But for “sherman”, it detects the word “man” in it and its plural is “men”, so it turns this word into “shermen” instead of “shermans”. This is most likely an error in whatever code deals with this.

OMG ahahhahaahhah!!!

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst

I4 combat.tsvg im attacking bir hachiem. did you want to spend one supply to defend with him?

[VictoryFirst]

You are crossing the land mine in BIR-SIW, which is now if I am not mistaken controlled by me because I am the only one having land units there.

So first the mine should be detonated for before I should decide whether to stay or retreat (I choose to detonate the mine).

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst huh, wow - guess you’re right. I guess that’s something that’s more obvious when you’re on the physical board and I absolutely would not have put that there last turn with this information but shrug yet another learning experience… detonate my mine? lol

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst this is probably too much to ask but is there anyway to allow the line of the territory to cut through each bubble? Then at least the side on which the mine is placed would be more visible?

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst i just read your discord notes - lol nice

[VictoryFirst]

@The_Good_Captain I already suspected you were not aware of this 😜

Yep, in the end, what you just said works best (splitting the border territories into two). This makes it immediately clear in which territory the land mines are. Now it is pretty ambiguous.

Let’s just play on for fun. I feel bad for taking advantage of your oversight, however in this case I don’t see an easy way to correct it. And we are mostly playing this game to test for bugs. We can always play more game after this on a more polished module and then you can take revenge on me 😁

I will detonate the mine, however I will give you the possibility to your Italian turn, now that you know about the mines. Do you want to make any changes to your turn?

[The_Good_Captain]

@VictoryFirst all sounds good, no changes necessary. lets proceed.

mine roll [dice 3d10]

[dicebot]

3d10: 10, 2, 6