First game.. Opinions.. and lots of questions!

  • Official Q&A

    @tarkonis:

    Can I launch fighters… , fight combat… move the carriers in non combat to a more defensive location, then land the planes on them in that location.

    Yes.  Bear in mind that you must launch fighters before the carriers move and land them after the carriers move, and the fighters can only move four spaces total (unless you have Long Range Aircraft).  Also, you must move the carriers in such a way that you can pick up all surviving fighters, if possible.

    When making the fighters’ combat move, you must do it in such a way that all of them have a possible landing space after the battles are over.  You can’t plan on losing any fighters, as you must assume that they will all survive.  You must also declare any noncombat carrier movements necessary to recover the fighters.  If the fighters survive, you must carry out those carrier movements to retrieve them.  If they don’t, you’re free to move the carriers elsewhere.

    @tarkonis:

    Is it legal to move a tank through a territory you have just captured in order to assault another territory?

    No.  All combat movement must be completed before any combats are resolved.  The only exception is unloading transports for an amphibious assault if there is a sea battle preceeding the assualt.

    However, you can move a tank through a territory you just captured in noncombat movement to a friendly territory, even one you just captured, on the other side.


  • Thanks for answering my questions ^^ I thought that Germany had taken waaaay too much soviet land on the first turn :P  I guess we will have to reroll 1941 and start again.  Some big errors in the rules were made…

    1. The 2 german subs were untocuched in the battle with the UK BS because of a misunderstanding of the rules.
    2. Tanks were moved after a combat had been resolved to reinforce a new combat in a more distant territory.
    3. The japanese player was unable to move the carriers out of range of the US (because he thought if he moved his planes then he couldnt move the carriers) and lost them.

    Thanks you are really helping me to reinforce my understanding of the game.


  • Japan on the first turn should normally take East Indies(4), Borneo(4), Philipines(2), Kwantung(1), and around 3 more land territories, for a net gain of 14 IPCs.  If they are playing with NOs on (which while optional, is almost always used), then they receive an additional 10 IPCs, for a total gain of 24 IPCs, rising their total to 41 income.


  • Hi guys thanks for your input playing a new game on Friday so i’ll let you know how it goes.

    Just out of interest is there a chart for recording unit positions if you have to pack the game away and resume it at a later date?

    Thanks

  • Official Q&A

    Try this out.


  • My first game results
    Winner: Axis By concession
    Game length: 7 turns (7pm-3am)

    Observations: At the start of the game I thought I had won because Germany left my UK fleet unmolested. I used it to blockade france and start shipping troops in every turn, while sending SBR’s to Berlin.  To which Italy replied with retaking the zone.  But the italians couldnt hold africa and UK kicked them out.  He pushed his med fleet up to block the med.

    This is where I think I made a mistake.

    I split my UK fleet to go and wipe the Italians out.  While this mision was successfulthe other half of my fleet was bombed into oblivion and I was never able to get troops from the UK over to france again after that.  Russian held ground well but was then effectivley cut off from the UK and couldnt stop the Germans taking Moscow.  Another mistake I made was to attack a large German force 1 zone from Moscow rather than stay and turtle and wait for US help.  Then in the next turn he took moscow with a huge stack of planes and 1 tank.

    Japan just grew and grew and grew and grew and I matched their builds with a navy of my own in WUS.  Because it was getting so late I just attacked and we killed each other.  But by that time Moscow had fell and it was little use carrying on.

    I think it is very hard to play the allies if you dont use them all to help each other out.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Tarkonis:

    England may start out with the largest paycheck, but in a matter of one to two turns they get the smallest or at least second smallest with Italy having the smallest.

    Just a brief look at strategies for you, by nation.

    Germany:  Get Baltic States, East Poland and Ukraine round 1, sink the ships in SZ 12.
    Russia: Get tanks and artillery, try to push the Germans out of at least Ukraine, East Poland or Baltic States (to cost them their national objective.)  Reinforce Chinghai with the four infantry you have in Novosibirsk and Kazakh.
    Japan: Take Suiyuan, Yunnan, Hupeh, Kwangtung, Borneo, Sumatra/E. Indies, Philippines, sink the ships in SZ 56, SZ 53, SZ 35 and SZ 50 on Round 1; strengthen and push deeper into China. (That round 1 should give you 31 IPC +10 National Objective IPCs for a total of 41 IPC to spend on Japan 2.)
    England: Rebuild fleet, prepare to stage massive invasions into Africa to cut the Italians off.
    Italy:  Focus is primarily on Africa, you might want to save up and get a Carrier and a second fighter to defend your fleet against the Americans and British.
    China: Stall, one infantry in a territory can really slow down the Japanese.
    America: Either go 100% against Germany or go 100% against Japan.  You cannot really split your focus and expect to win in either arena.  I happen to think Japan is easier to crack than Germany, but I am in the distinct minority.


  • @Cmdr:

    I happen to think Japan is easier to crack than Germany, but I am in the distinct minority.

    I agree. I’ve often seen the Japanese player not take a devoted USA seriously enough. In this case Japan looks good the first few turns but then it can get real ugly real fast.


  • @Cmdr:

    Just a brief look at strategies for you, by nation.

    America: Either go 100% against Germany or go 100% against Japan.  You cannot really split your focus and expect to win in either arena.  I happen to think Japan is easier to crack than Germany, but I am in the distinct minority.

    I think this is the greatest point of contention with respect to strategic discussions.

    I imagine if the Axis focus primarily on Russia, this might be true as the Axis backdoor would be weak and open to concentrated efforts from USA.

    However, a more balanced Axis game plan might be best countered with a balanced Allied game plan.


    If this is indeed true that USA go to only KGF /  KJF, it is a sad statement on the balance of the game.


  • Thanks very much for all the replies.

    I hope you will forgive me but I briefly skimmed over the strats Jennifer… as after the last game we had a ‘gentlemens’ agreement that we should not look up strategies or ways to win on the internet, and instead figure it out for ourselves.

    So, when we have our rematch i’ll let you know how I fared.  I think i’m going to throw a pump fake to the japs and go KGF.

    Cheers

    Tark


  • @tarkonis:

    So, when we have our rematch i’ll let you know how I fared.  I think i’m going to throw a pump fake to the japs and go KGF.

    So what is the US pump fake?

    I would like to hear your idea, not tell you what I think you should do…    :wink:

    :-D


  • @axis_roll:

    So what is the US pump fake?

    I’m surprised a seasoned player like you hasn’t seen this one a_r.

    The US Player puts on these high heels see…


  • @Zero:

    @axis_roll:

    So what is the US pump fake?

    I’m surprised a seasoned player like you hasn’t seen this one a_r.

    The US Player puts on these high heels see…

    Thanks for the laugh!
    :lol: :lol: :lol:


  • :-D lol funny.

    Well I wasnt reffering to a strategy per se.  I just want to try and convince the jap player that im going KJF, but actually go KGF.


  • @tarkonis:

    Well I wasnt reffering to a strategy per se.  I just want to try and convince the jap player that im going KJF, but actually go KGF.

    Are you going to be broadcasting propaganda?
    :-)


  • Attention Japan!

    Attention Japan!

    The U.S are going to attack you!

    Attention Germany…

    Move along there is nothing to see here :mrgreen:

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