Presidential Election (as a current event- watch the tone or it's gone)

Democrats believe that if they raise taxes, people will just work harder to make more money and make up for it.
Republicans believe that if they give tax breaks, people will spend more which will give companies more which means they can grow and pay more and hire more.

That’s the fundamental difference on fiscal policies.

As for McCain’s program, I have two major problems with it.

1)  It increases the size of government.  Government is the cause of all of life’s problems, so making it bigger and more powerful would just increase the number and scope of all of life’s problems.

2)  It’s a bad PR move to forcefully arrest and detain and export illegals.  It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government, it wins on both a foreign perspective in that we are not kicking out poor, hungry, hard working men and tearing apart families, like if we deported them - and we are persecuting the rich which makes the poor feel better.  Win/win.  And it’s completely funded with the seizures, so it does not require tax dollars.  And, since it requires less manpower and over head to arrest the board of directors (like what, 3-12 people?) then it does the illegals (like what, 5 million people?) it does not expand the size of government and thus, does not make more problems for life.

The trick is to look for ways to solve problems with using less money, less government agents and less government size.  The smaller the government, the freer the corporate world, the better for capitalism and Americans.

As for corporate taxes:

[(Average Pay for an American in America to do the job) - (Wages paid for foreigners to do the job)] *0.95 = taxes owed on payroll.

So if you would normally have to pay $10.00/hr for an American to do the job, but you hire someone to do it in China for $0.50/hr then you owe:  $10.00-$0.50 = $9.50 * the tax rate 95% = $9.03/hr.  You still save $0.47/hr by hiring foreigners to do the job, but the People of the United States get that money back to fund government and to fill the unemployment security and social security coffers.

or, you could just hire Americans.  Your choice.

@Cmdr:

@Pervavita:

@Amon:

you just forget Guantanamo Bay

it’s rented from Cuba, Castro just don’t cash the checks. the lease ends though at some point, i can’t remember when though.

Never, actually.  It is not leased.  It is American soil.  We got it as payment for freeing Cuba from Spain.

so US soil it is you say

Actually, we just kept it back in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, and when Castro took over in Cuba, we fortified the snot out of it :-)

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

Iamanhonestgovernmentofficial
Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

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no, im sure it’s on lease. i know Castro makes a big deal that he don’t cash the cheaks.

any one see the debate last night?

how about New York times artical that just came out saying in the Editers notes (or something like that) that all the Republicans are horible but McCain was the best there is.
hear is the artical. i don’t know, the Times is about as left as they come as papers go and they endorce the guy. i think that says a lot.

@ncscswitch:

Actually, we just kept it back in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, and when Castro took over in Cuba, we fortified the snot out of it :-)

Exactly.  But we did write it into a treaty.  Guantanamo Bay is akin to Midway and Guam.  US Soil, but not a US State.

@newpaintbrush:

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

Iamanhonestgovernmentofficial
Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Yes, but they already HAVE that power.  I just want to focus it on companies committing felonies by hiring illegals.  Common, yer a liberal, you can get behind this!  We’re going to punish “the evil corporate empires!”  Big business is the enemy, right?  Well, let’s go get them!  :evil:

@Cmdr:

@newpaintbrush:

@Cmdr:

It’s much better to make life so hard on illegals they decide to leave on their own.  It’s what the Mexican Government’s been doing and why we have this problem in the first place.  If we just arrest our own guys for committing felonies, and seize their assets to sell at auction, we get others not to commit those felonies and we can use the profits from the arrests to fund the government,

Yes, it’s good that we have such honest government officials that can be trusted with the power to arrest people, seize their assets, and sell said assets off at auction.

If you believe in honest government officials too, send me money and a picture of your daughter to:

Iamanhonestgovernmentofficial
Arealnotmadeupcity
Nigeria

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Yes, but they already HAVE that power.  I just want to focus it on companies committing felonies by hiring illegals.  Common, yer a liberal, you can get behind this!  We’re going to punish “the evil corporate empires!”  Big business is the enemy, right?  Well, let’s go get them!   :evil:

I’m with you on that. Burn em.
As well as the outsourcing folks too.

so then we have no jobs.  great.

We have lots of jobs, Balung.  We are only going after the evil companies that hire illegals or outsource their labor to foreign nations. =)

In fact, shouldn’t we have MORE jobs?

Back to the candidates folks…

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

@Cmdr:

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

I thought he was a hold over still running from 2004…  :evil:

Yeah the stakes are pretty interesting on both sides…

5 Republicans, 4 Democrats, 7 Considered Front Runners, one “maverick” loaded with cash (Paul), and only one candidate that is without a doubt unable to win (Gravel).

And look, the Guerrilla is at 3000 posts…  :|

GG

Three Republicans, Three Democrats AFAIK are running:

Mitt Romney
John McCain
Mike Huckabee

Barrack Obama
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards

Though, the third one in each list is running for Vice President, I think.

@Cmdr:

Kucinich dropped out today.

Anyone remember that he was running?

I hadn’t heard that yet.  He was a pipe dream, anyway…to fringe.  But I will never forget his wife.  8-)

so, obama with the beatdown.

@balungaloaf:

so, obama with the beatdown.

obama is now sligtly ahead after dominating south carolina. he might became to use taht to give himself a slight advantage for super tuesday. it really is anyone’s race for either primary. (assuming Rudy doesn’t lose in florida) anyone ever told him not to put all your eggs in one basket. I still hate all the nominees though.

South Carolina is already being “spun” to downgrade Obama’s large victory, and is being spun effectively I might add.  Only 25% of the “white vote” but 80% of the “black vote” is being portrayed as Obama being “The Black Candidate” in the same way that Jackson was 20 years ago.  Back then Jackson was considered an “also ran” candidate, with polling somewhere between where Kusinich was when he dropped out and Edwards; but he won South Carolina TWICE on “the black vote”.  South Carolina keeps Obama in the race, but only until Super Tuesday unless by then he can broaden his appeal and he gets victories or at least strong showings in places with smaller minority populations and/or among hispanics.

Edwards is now out of it, but will hang on at least until Super Tuesday in order to keep gaining delegates, and may even officially remain in the race but with suspended campaigning (as he has done before) in an effort to have as much leverage as possible in the event the Democratic Nomination comes down to a brokered convention.  If that happens… if Hillary fails to lock up the nomination with 50%+1 of the delegates, expect Edwards to put his delegates behind Hillary in exchange for either the VP slot, or a Cabinet position.

As for the Republicans…
Unless Guilianni or Huckabee pull off a miracle in Florida (Guiliani a win, Huckabee at least a strong second place), then the Republican race will come down to McCain versus Romney on Super Tuesday.  A clear winner on Super Tuesday will effectively put an end to the Republican challenge.  And if that clear winner would be McCain, Romney’s campaign then becomes the equivalent of Pat Robertson’s campaign… simply an effort to keep the Right Wing issues front and center in an effort to pull the front running a bit more to the Right.