How much of an A&A sore loser are you?

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    @cystic:

    I think i’m from the frimmel school.  I’ve been figuratively lashing myself for the careless mistakes that i’ve made in our game whereas a simple “d’Oh!” has sufficed for lucky/unlucky dice rolls. 
    Anyway - DM has handed me my a** on a couple of occassions, and aside from his bizaare pro-Iraq invasion stance, we are still on reasonable terms ;)

    Lol!
    Yep, as long as we stay away from US-Iraq we’re good to go.  :-D

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I don’t loose Axis and Allies games.  The other guy wins.

    And for the record, there is a sore winner on this board and he’s also in the tourney.  He knows who he is!


  • “I usually get bent out of shape when great dice are taken as good play.”

    Yes, me too.

    But I’d like to draw attention to the fact that in real life, and especially in war, sometimes the idiot that signaled “Charge!” and got lucky is the one that wins the day.

    The game uses dice for a reason.  You have to live with what rolls come up, good or bad.  SOMETIMES, the game ends on a lucky long shot, but I wouldn’t want to have it any other way (which is why I do NOT like Low Luck).

    Just to get things straight, YES, I do not like losing to a luckier person.  YES, I still think that luck is an important part of the game.

  • '19 Moderator

    It’s pretty rare that I miss things, More often than not if I screw up it’s because I took a chance and got too agresive.  I can live with that pretty easy though because odds are something I understand pretty easily.  What really burns me is when the dice go on a box car parade.  By the same token, I laugh and hoot when the aces are flowing.

    The guys I play with are world class sh!t talkers, so you can’t help but roll with it.  For example this past weekend in a game I was America and the Japanese player must have shot me the bird 20 times.  All in good fun of course.

  • 2007 AAR League

    Bad dice can put me in a bad mood but I try not to let my mood come across the table.

    I also feel embarressed when I get a string of “unearned” luck.  It is one thing if I put together a hair-brained plan that can pull my butt out of the fire with a good roll or three.  I figure that is good play.  It is entirely different when I start rolling good dice non-stop in a plan where it just starts to decimate the other guy.  I feel sorry for the other guy at that point.

    Good strategy by the other guy will make me quiet but typically that 'cause I’m pulling it apart 50 different ways in my head.

    Good tactics by the other guy are admired and emulated.

    When my game goes bad due to my bad play there is not much I can do but laugh and fight it out to the very end.


  • The dice love me. I love the dice.

    The dice hate me. I hate the dice.

    Fickle little daughters of Lady Luck.

  • 2007 AAR League

    But with out the dice the game is soo boring….


  • it’s not the losing that bugs me, it’s losing and then the being made fun of for playing the Imperial March from Star Wars back at the beginning of all my turns during the game and still losing.


  • It’s no big deal….
    as long as I figure out how to beat them the next time by losing

  • '19 Moderator

    @Baghdaddy:

    I also feel embarressed when I get a string of “unearned” luck.  It is one thing if I put together a hair-brained plan that can pull my butt out of the fire with a good roll or three.  I figure that is good play.  It is entirely different when I start rolling good dice non-stop in a plan where it just starts to decimate the other guy.  I feel sorry for the other guy at that point.

    Very true, it’s always better to hear “Man, I didn’t see that comming” than “If you hadn’t had that dice run…”

    It feels beter to win with average or even bad dice.


  • @murraymoto:

    it’s not the losing that bugs me, it’s losing and then the being made fun of for playing the Imperial March from Star Wars back at the beginning of all my turns during the game and still losing.

    That’s why I wait to play the Imperial March until I am either going to take Moscow, Berlin, or Tokyo.

  • '19 Moderator

    I prefer Ride of the Valkries myself

  • 2007 AAR League

    @dezrtfish:

    @Baghdaddy:

    I also feel embarressed when I get a string of “unearned” luck.  It is one thing if I put together a hair-brained plan that can pull my butt out of the fire with a good roll or three.  I figure that is good play.  It is entirely different when I start rolling good dice non-stop in a plan where it just starts to decimate the other guy.  I feel sorry for the other guy at that point.

    Very true, it’s always better to hear “Man, I didn’t see that comming” than “If you hadn’t had that dice run…”

    It feels beter to win with average or even bad dice.

    Nothing like a good dice run to take all the satisfaction out of a beautiful plan.


  • Being beaten by dice SUCKS.  No other way to put it.

    But I also will never give up my dice.  They are too integral to the game.  And to be honest, those players who can “think on the fly” and can compensate for bad dice, really deserver major kudos.  To my thinking, those falks are the BEST gamers out there, and certainly far better than some folks who used to frequent these boards who simply had worked through the sims so many times that they had memorized the possibilities, run them all thorugh a sim, and had a “canned answer” to ever move and relied on “low luck” to make sure that the game stayed within “pre-set parameters”

    JSP is one of those players that I think highly of.
    Darth is another I place in that category.

    Others here are as well I am sure, but I have not had a chance to see or play many of the newer board members.

    Against two very balanced players, the game is often decided by two factors:
    Who makes the most mistakes loses (the most critical factor)
    and
    Who gets the best luck early (not as critical, but if the shift in luck is large enough, it can be devastating, especially early in the game).

    Now, as for MUSIC…

    Ride of the Valkeries is great, but only if you are playing Germany.

    As UK though too often I find myself more along the “Bridge on teh River Kwai” motif… whistling merrily along as my forces die  :evil:

  • '19 Moderator

    Good point, I tend to focus on Germany because I think they are the most fun to play.


  • Can America lose if you have the soundtrack to Patton playing in the background?  :mrgreen:


  • @ncscswitch:

    Being beaten by dice SUCKS.  No other way to put it.

    I have been beaten by gutsy players that go for long shots that got lucky on dice.

    I have been beaten by regular players that went for regular strategies and got lucky on the dice (creating unpredicted results)

    I have been beaten by players that took advantage of weaknesses in my position after I suffered higher than predicted casualties in particular battles.

    But I have never been beaten by dice.

    Dealing with bad dice is a part of good strategy.

    Yes, sometimes the dice ARE completely ridiculous, but that’s part of the fun of the game.


  • Hey, gracias Yoper.

    You know, one of the most enjoyable games MightyAirforce and I had was playing you and VDisc at Origins.  You’re both fun players and excellent sportsmen.  It’s play like that that brings you back to the events.  In fact, after seeing how you ran the game, M.A. and I were curious to see how you run your tournament.  Pennsylvania is kind of far away, but maybe some day you’ll be running the show at a closer venue.

    I have to say the vast majority of AA players I have encountered are good sports.  I have a hunch A&A is the type of game that if you have a bad temper or can’t handle the dice, you won’t play for long ;)

    Peace


  • @CrazyStraw:

    I have a hunch A&A is the type of game that if you have a bad temper or can’t handle the dice, you won’t play for long ;)

    Or that type of thing gets burned out of you, which I think may be what happened in my case :-)


  • i love the game whether winning or “not winning”  :-)

    crappy dice are definitely part of the game.

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