G40: Caesar1 (Allies, USA +14/turn) vs. teslas

[teslas]

No problem at all on having a busy week. It doesn’t hold me up any. FYI: I’ll be gone all weekend.

I’ll let the bomber thing slide in this instance, because, indeed, it doesn’t make sense to bomb a factory you’re about to conquer and stop the enemy from being able to repair/produce out of it anyway.

And my Italian can-opener scored 1 hit. Should have scored 3, I would have been happy with 2, but 1. Pretty sure you’re ahead in the luck department this game, my good man.

[Caesar1]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from South Australia to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            2 armour moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Queensland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 armour, 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New South Wales : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    South Australia : 1 artillery and 6 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 infantry
    Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
    54 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    Alexandria : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 35 / 54
    Russians : 24 / 27
    Japanese : 65 / 81
    Americans : 60 / 94
    Chinese : 3 / 4
    British : 36 / 44
    UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
    Italians : 21 / 12
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Caesar1]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

Kenya : 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 2 infantry
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 infantry
    Morocco : 1 infantry
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Tunisia : 1 infantry
    Norway : 1 fighter
    Holland Belgium : 1 artillery
    125 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
    98 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 35 / 54
    Russians : 24 / 27
    Japanese : 65 / 81
    Americans : 60 / 94
    Chinese : 3 / 4
    British : 36 / 44
    UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
    Italians : 21 / 12
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[teslas]

Uhhh. I get an error when I try to post the game summary. “Missing refresh header after log in.”

[teslas]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 6

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries; Remaining resources: 30 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Russia
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Tambov
                  Germans take Tambov from Russians
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Russia
            18 armour, 11 artilleries, 4 bombers, 5 fighters, 27 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Western Germany
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Western Germany from British with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 19 armour, 11 artilleries, 4 bombers, 5 fighters, 27 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 8 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 14 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 58 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans captures 27PUs while taking Russians capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 12 armour, 4 bombers, 3 fighters and 8 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 76
                Casualties for Germans: 7 armour, 11 artilleries, 2 fighters, 27 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 4 aaGuns, 1 armour, 14 artilleries, 2 fighters, 58 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
            4 bombers moved from Russia to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Bryansk
            5 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
            3 fighters moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg

Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5,5,1,1,6,5,2,5,3
            Germans collect 40 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 97 PUs total
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 107 PUs

[teslas]

There it goes! Had me worried.

I took a huge gamble by not repairing and building in Berlin. I hope it was the right choice. I think by not “wasting” the 20 IPCs this turn to repair my factory, that was my only hope for holding our and pushing back in Europe. If Germany collapses, I don’t know if Japan can win before America starts dumping money in the Pacific and flies all its bombers home.

Also, boy am I glad I never took Normandy!

Good game, so far, sir! Super tense.

[teslas]

Oh wait, sorry! I didn’t see your tank in Caucasus. I had it scrolled down only so far to see your infantry and mech infantry, and did not think you could blitz up to hit my planes. Let me review the board real fast, I might need to move those.

[teslas]

Yes, please move my Bryansk tactical bombers to Ukraine. I would do it, but the web filter is about to come back up at work, and I’ve already been told to stop circumventing it on multiple occasions :p

[Caesar1]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 6

Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Libya
                  Russians take Tobruk from Italians
                  Russians take Libya from Italians
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
                  Russians take Ethiopia from Italians
            1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun and 8 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia

Turn Complete - Russians

Territory Summary for Russians :

Buryatia : 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 armour
    Tobruk : 1 flag
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    Volgograd : 1 factory_minor
    Samara : 1 aaGun, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Iraq : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 107
    Russians : 22 / 0
    Japanese : 65 / 81
    Americans : 60 / 94
    Chinese : 3 / 4
    British : 31 / 44
    UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
    Italians : 19 / 12
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Caesar1]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 6

Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Libya
                  Russians take Tobruk from Italians
                  Russians take Libya from Italians
            1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
                  Russians take Ethiopia from Italians
            1 armour moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun and 8 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Ukraine: 3 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bryansk: 3 tactical_bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for Russians :

Buryatia : 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 armour
    Tobruk : 1 flag
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    Volgograd : 1 factory_minor
    Samara : 1 aaGun, 14 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Iraq : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 107
    Russians : 22 / 0
    Japanese : 65 / 81
    Americans : 60 / 94
    Chinese : 3 / 4
    British : 31 / 44
    UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
    Italians : 19 / 12
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Caesar1]

Greetings to your web filter  :wink: . The second post is that with the EDIT.

[teslas]

I’ll probably not be able to post until Tuesday or Wednesday, sir.

[teslas]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour moved from Shensi to Sikang
                  Japanese take Sikang from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
            1 artillery, 4 fighters, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            7 fighters and 7 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to Tsinghai
            1 armour moved from India to West India
                  Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific
            1 armour moved from West India to India
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Tsinghai
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 11 fighters, 10 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 7 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 22 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 1 armour, 10 fighters and 7 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 22 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Dutch New Guinea

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            10 fighters moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            7 tactical_bombers moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            1 aaGun moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to Chahar
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Manchuria to Chahar
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            4 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in India
            1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
            2 destroyers and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Malaya
            Japanese undo move 5.
            Japanese undo move 4.
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 69 PUs; end with 72 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

[teslas]

I decided to not go hyper aggressive, and prep for a long game.

I could have gone into Egypt/Middle East, and maybe I should have, but let’s see what happens.

[Caesar1]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 6 fighters, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 5 transports moved from 125 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Germany
            3 bombers moved from Scotland to Germany
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany

[Caesar1]

I think I need your order of loss in Germany, maybe you want to save your bombers? Or I shall follow the default order?

[teslas]

Well damn, I missed that so many American bombers were in range when I looked around.

I will go ahead and forfeit the game, then.

Shame, too, as the Axis were doing pretty well, actually, and I had all the IPCs I needed to build things in Berlin to keep this from happening.

Sorry for cutting your game short!

[Caesar1]

I think you risk too much with Germany taking Moscow so early, maybe a more “economical” playing could give you a stability in Europe without compromising the game soon. Anyway do you think this premature ending of the game is due to the +14 USA/turn? In this case we can bid for less and see what happens. Maybe we can balance this game in a different way, alternative to the classical starting IPCs bid.
What do you think?

[teslas]

No, I don’t think it’s over because of the +14 IPCs/turn. I think it was mostly because I rushed through my German turn at work and didn’t put enough time into thinking about it, saving a bunch of IPCs with Germany I could have spent to keep Berlin. Granted, those +14 IPCs a turn, including the first round, were a massive part of how well the allies were doing, of course.

I think Moscow when it occurred was the correct choice. Russia was due for reinforcements, and the middle east was firmly in britain’s possession. Any delay in the east to kill units would have lead to a front I could never have won. Taking Moscow greatly swayed the economic balance of the game. I could have held it and pushed against the front in the caucasus.

With all my air back in europe, that would have been a long slog, but I think Berlin was safe, if not able to expand back out a bit, for at least a few turns. During that time, Japan would have been doing work.

[Caesar1]

So let’s try with less USA/turn income? I think 10 maxiumum would be ok but I’ll be happy also with 8