• Spaten is the best beer around . What is not clear about that point?


  • @Imperious:

    Spaten is the best beer around . What is not clear about that point?

    The fact that your didn’t say Optimator.

    Doppelbocks are for real beer drinkers.  :wink:



  • Hill’s is a major Czech Absinthe label. its 140 proof, light green, kinda like alcoholic mouthwash with a liquorice kick. very good. low thujone content (thats the stuff that makes you “hallucinate”), but very good alcohol. Sam Smith? never heard of it. i meant Sam Adams specialty beers (Black Lager, Brown Ale, Holiday Porter, etc.) im pretty sure heineken is an ale, actually, though not positive (they do make a lager, but i think the traditional “heineken” is an ale). i generally prefer lagers, stouts, and porters to ales. yuengling is a lager, as is molson. as is honey brown. anyway, i really want to try sam’s extreme beers, like the triple bock, and the chocolate bock, and the millenium, which is like 25% alcohol! not carbonated though, it sounds really interesting


  • It’s Guinness or Heineken, beer-wise, Tullamore Dew and Stolichnaya spirits- wise. Long Island Ice Tea or the classical Tequila Sunrise are my cocktails of choice. Anything the Gallo Brothers come up when wine is concerned, and the standard Coke if I have to stay sober.


  • You people are a little too yuppie & upscale for me. Give me a case of Busch beer and I’m in heaven!!


  • Maddog, you know what American beer and sex in a canoe have in common?

    They are both f’ing close to water :-P


  • @ncscswitch:

    Maddog, you know what American beer and sex in a canoe have in common?

    They are both f’ing close to water :-P

    Amen to that.

    @MADDOGG:

    You people are a little too yuppie & upscale for me. Give me a case of Busch beer and I’m in heaven!!

    Well, I’m “old Europe” by birth and by location, so there’s no “yuppie& upscale” to that.

    Just the liquid expression of historical supremacy :D.


  • Yuengling, Honey Brown, Sam Adams, all GOOD American beers. Damn good.


  • And all just poor imitations of their European superiors :-P


  • @ncscswitch:

    Maddog, you know what American beer and sex in a canoe have in common?

    They are both f’ing close to water :-P

    are you Canadian??
    Because this is a standard saying over here.

    Of course American beer is more accessible to Canadians than Canadian beer because we can get it in the supermarket - i think we call it Snapple.


  • LOL!  No, I just think that is my genetics talking to my taste buds… I come from a long line of very short Bavarians (and the obligatory great grandmother who was Crow).  GOOD beer is in my genes.

    And the fact that my Father was a regional sales rep for Christian Scmhidt’s for a few years… well lets just say I leanred all about American beer during that time…


  • please…nothing but unfounded snobbery. Budweiser, Miller, Coors, and all their cheap varieties are bad american beer, and unfortunately, too widely drank (drunk?). but they should not be made to represent american beer. Sam Adams, Yuengling, and Honey Brown are all fine beers, on par with the Canadian and European beers ive tried. I dont think anyone would dispute that Europe has the best beer, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with those american varieties ive listed.


  • OK, I’ll admit it… I drink Yuengling or Sam Adams IF the bar I am at does not have either Newcastle or Fosters.  Though my wife complains that Yuengling smells like old mop water… and if I DO have a Yuengling (or 2), I won’t get lucky that evening as a result.

    If that is not a reason to avoid American Beer, I don;t know what is :-D


  • psh…you are just one of those “i only drink imported beer” types, who dislikes american beer because its american. i like GOOD beer, wherever its from. and yuengling, honey brown, and sam adams are GOOD beer.


  • Not true… there are a few American beers I enjoy… Saranack (not sure of spelling) Amber Lager and Flying Dog’s amber lager :-)

    And I’ll admit it, I even drink the occasional Rolling Rock when I am visiting family in PA :-P


  • @AgentSmith:

    Switch - Did you know Newcastle funds rehabilitation centers for alcoholics at their HQ?  Well, maybe not at the plant itself, but somewhere in town…  I call that responsible drinking!

    Did you know the Cult Awareness Network that is supposed to help get family members out of cults is run by the Church of Scientology?  Not a slight on the Church if the eye of the big brother of the Church is watching.  Scientology and its people are totally sane, not crazy and great people. 8-)

    The only way this relates to the topic is that Scientology makes me want to get extremely drunk and vomit on myself.  But, yeah, scary…


  • There are plenty of American beers to be proud of, it’s just that the big names are terrible…
    However, try a Budweiser when you are in Europe - it’s a completely different beer and will knock you on your @$$!  Amstel light was MUCH better in Paris that what I’ve had here.

    Janus - I double checked: Heineken is indeed a lager.  If it’s not dark and complex, it’s usually a Pilsner-Urquell rip off (the most imitated beer, which is a lager).  I still recommend the other Sam - Sammie Smith - it’s good, but it’s imported and little more expensive.  Try the Oatmeal Stout, you underage rebel.  :-D

    No love for sake?  Anyone?


  • Jermo- my mistake, i was thrown off by its light, crisp taste. so, ive found the exception to my lager rule  :-D
    Sam Smith huh? Ill keep an eye out for it whenever I get my beer, but I dont expect I’ll be able to find it for another 3 years, being underage, my suppliers are few and far between. Oatmeal Stout sounds quite tasty, however, and Ill give it a try if I ever find it  :wink:

    Sake, ive had it chilled, didnt care for it, but ive heard its best enjoyed warm, so I havent made a judgement yet.


  • @Janus1:

    Jermo- my mistake, i was thrown off by its light, crisp taste. so, ive found the exception to my lager rule  :-D
    Sam Smith huh? Ill keep an eye out for it whenever I get my beer, but I dont expect I’ll be able to find it for another 3 years, being underage, my suppliers are few and far between. Oatmeal Stout sounds quite tasty, however, and Ill give it a try if I ever find it  :wink:

    It’s as tasty as it sounds, but any Sam Smith is a good beer.

    Sake, ive had it chilled, didnt care for it, but ive heard its best enjoyed warm, so I havent made a judgement yet.

    It depends on the sake.  Some are designed to serve cool and some warm.  Room temperature isn’t bad either.  But like anything, there is good and bad sake, and drinking bad sake warm usually helps its taste.  I prefer warm - it adds an extra kick to it - plus the ritual of warming the sake and portioning it out is quite fun.  Also, I read somewhere that sake lacks a certain amino acid (I don’t remember which one at the moment) that is common in other alcohol which contributes to hangovers when metabolized.  Not to say you will feel like crap the next day if you drink too much (still have to deal with dehydration and lost nutrients), but it’s nice to know. :-)

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