@Imperious-Leader sorry, no pics this time but the table did feel like this was a way better way to begin the game. Gets the game going a little quicker and with zero 9-12 anxiety for either side. Seems like it would be more fair for tournament play also.
Oztea's global41 setup pictures
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The last two weekends were the 41 set up and I think there a good break from the routine. Thats going to be the set up this weekend also.
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Played 2 games against myself recently for playtesting purposes.
Game 1 was an allied win. Russia backpedaled to moscow and created a superstack, but inched it forward into Bryansk which almost forced germany to attack it, but that whittled down the german offensive and they had to backpedal.
The Western allies played a bitter alliance game and weren’t very cooperative. The UK built an IC in egypt and went into europe via greece, while the americans had a huge transport fleet that shuttled units to southern france. Early in the game the UK factory had 20 damage on it, so this route came about as an alternative.
Also 5 US subs in the italian home waters reduced them to 0 ipcs regularly.The pacific was a tug of war with Japan constantly being driven backwards, but eventually Soviet and British forces linked up in the balkans, and the US force in france liberated paris. Germany was forced to capitulate. And japan was faced with a US fleet poised to clear SZ 6
Game 2 was an axis win. The japanese opted to take Hawaii on their first turn, and the US retaliated by clearing the pacific.
Instead of the huge fleets of the previous game, small fleets bounced all around the pacific, eventually the US and ANZAC took too many of the DEI for Japan to hold the bonus so Japan retaliated by attacking Russia. This tied up the train of units destined for moscow, and hence germany took it on the 8th turn and dropped 20 infantry in Germany and West germany.
Though the US holds Southern France, Normandy, and Holland/Belgium, with the USSR out of the way, there is no hope in liberating paris and holding it (as the US loses control of production centers there)Though japan was beginning to be eroded away at, they held their own long enough, and stabbed the USSR in the back at just the right time.
In both of these games, Rome never fell. Each time the allies get into position to take it, the axis has just enough to make the attack infeasible.
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Does your latest 1941 setup work for standalone games of Europe and Pacific?
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I have never tried it and wouldn’t reccomend it.
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Any plans to make your 41 work for stand alone games?
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Since Europe came out I have tottaly forgot there even was a standalone game.
I have no plans to modify it to work.
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Since Europe came out I have tottaly forgot there even was a standalone game.
I have no plans to modify it to work.
Theoretically, it would work.the only thing that makes them stand alone games is when you buy them they come in two different boxes.
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Im well aware of that. I just prefer global. It was a global war after all.
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Really like the Japanese option to attack pearl rd. 1, makes things interesting. German steamroller is quite effective with a G1 med clear.
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You mean attack pearl by land?
The US can retaliate and wipe the pacific clean of naval units….it can be done, but is it worth it for Japan?
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You mean attack pearl by land?
The US can retaliate and wipe the pacific clean of naval units….it can be done, but is it worth it for Japan?
Perhaps I am using an outdated setup, but if Japan brings the house, the US counterattack won’t win most of the time…
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A lot of US units can get there if you bring the carriers.
The planes on the carriers can land on Midway or wake, so you can bring 4 more from the main land, as well as 2 bombers.What you end up with is a wash, the US fleet is crippled, but so is the Japanese fleet.
Who can rebuild faster, and did Japan’s efforts at Hawaii weaken it’s efforts against ANZAC and India enough so that they will be more annoying.
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I just prefer global. It was a global war after all.
This is my first time on this thread and I must say, I’m very impressed with the progress and effort made by Oztea and everyone who has contributed in this setup house rule. I to prefer a global war, playing Europe or Pacific separately feels like playing half a game. I can’t add much value to the process, as my historic knowledge is not as advanced as some of you here, however, I absolutely love the idea of playing this game with a clean slate as far as strategy goes. When my friends and I get bored of playing out the same scenarios using Larry’s setup…. it’s nice to know that Oztea’s 1941 setup will be there to try something completely new. I encourage Oztea and all those that are helping to perfect this setup, to continue on and finish the job. That being said, I can’t stress this enough… please make a final draft and report in the title of this thread when it is 100% done. Thank you.
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I love hearing that people enjoy this setup, and though it may not be balanced to 100% fairness, if you have a few goes at it you will have fun. There are very different and very realistic tactical situations and decisions you have to make. Sea Lion might be out of the question, and this is more of a WWII simulation than a “what if in 1940” sort of simulator like OOB 1940 is.
Its fun, and if there are any major flaws I promise to adress them.
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I love hearing that people enjoy this setup, and though it may not be balanced to 100% fairness, if you have a few goes at it you will have fun. There are very different and very realistic tactical situations and decisions you have to make. Sea Lion might be out of the question, and this is more of a WWII simulation than a “what if in 1940” sort of simulator like OOB 1940 is.
Its fun, and if there are any major flaws I promise to adress them.
Is it done? where can I find the setup list?
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This is the most recent one I am aware of:
http://harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6834If there is another Oz, please let us know. When we play global we hardl ever play 1940 anymore; 1940’s really only for the separate boards for us. Thanks for the great setup.
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Correct, that setup is the most current (however I am considering taking 2-4 INF away from Japan on the mainland and giving China 2-4 more, as they are getting systematically steam rolled without any input from reenforcements….however I’d like to hear from playtesters if thats the case. Otherwise no glaring flaws)
Great Britain stands alone, struggling to hold together its Empire, beset by the European Axis. Victories have been few and far between. France has surrendered to Germany and Italy, the Greek Campaign has ended in failure, and the gains made in North Africa are in jeopardy as the German Afrkia Korps arrives. Worse still the German high seas fleet, led by the battleship Bismark and a myriad of U-Boats, are marauding North Atlantic shipping and threatening to starve the United Kingdom into submission. But a whole new war looms on the horizon as Operation Barbarossa is set to begin in earnest. Germany intends to plunge deep into the Soviet Union, intent on eradicating Communism and the Red Army. While in the east, the Japanese Empire is poised to strike decisive blows on the colonial possessions of the West. As the dust settles the world finds itself in a truly global war. Take command as either the Axis juggernaut, gaining momentum and territory rapidly. Or fight on the side of the Allies, stem the tide of Axis aggression, and launch an offensive of your own. The year is 1941, battles have been fought, but the war has just begun.
Current Alpha +3 Rules are in effect (Including National Objectives and special rules)
Politically, the game begins as if it was the beginning of the third turn.
All powers follow any relevant restrictions. (Neutrality, etc.)Updated November 27, 2012
National Setup By Country
[Germany] - 48 IPCs
Germany - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers, 1 Bomber, Major IC, 4 AA guns
West Germany - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Bomber, Major IC, 4 AA guns, Port, Airbase
Greater Southern Germany - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry
Holland Belgium - 2 Infantry, AA Gun
Normandy/Bordeux - 2 Infantry, AA Gun, Minor IC, Port, Control Marker
France - 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, Minor IC, Airbase, Control Marker
Southern France - 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, Minor IC, Port, Control Marker
Morocco - 1 Infantry, Control Marker
Algeria - 1 Infantry, Control Marker
French West Africa - Control Marker
French Central Africa - Control Marker
French Madagascar - Control Marker
Tunisia - 1 Infantry
Libya - 2 Infantry, 2 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank
Syria - Control Marker
Southern Italy - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Greece - 1 Infantry, 2 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank
Bulgaria - 4 Infantry, Control Marker
Yugoslavia - 2 Infantry, 2 Artillery
Romania - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Tanks
Slovakia Hungary - 8 Infantry, 3 Mech Infantry, 2 Artillery, 3 Tanks
Poland - 8 Infantry, 3 Mech Infantry, 2 Artillery, 3 Tanks
Finland - 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank
Norway - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Fighter, AA Gun
Denmark - 2 Infantry
SZ 113 - 2 Subs, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 114 - 1 Sub, ,1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 118 - 1 Battleship (Damaged)
SZ 106 - 1 Sub
SZ 103 - 1 Sub
SZ 93 - 1 Sub, 1 Transport
SZ 96 - 1 Destroyer[Soviet Union] - 37 IPCs
Russia - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 2 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Bomber, Major IC, 3 AA guns, Airbase
Vologda - 1 Infantry
Archangel - 1 Infantry
Novgorod - 11 Infantry, 2 Mech Infantry, 1 Fighter, Minor IC, 4 AA guns, Port, Airbase
Karelia - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry
Vyborg - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Baltic States - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tactical Bomber
Belarus - 1 Infantry
Eastern Poland - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Western Ukraine - 1 Infantry
Bessarabia - 3 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry
Ukraine - 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, Minor IC, AA gun
Rostov - 2 Infantry
Caucasus - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry
Volgograd - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, Minor IC, AA gun
Tambov - 1 Infantry
Bryansk - 2 Infantry
Smolensk - 2 Infantry
Turkmenistan- 1 Infantry
Kazakhstan - 1 Infantry
Samara - 1 Infantry
Novosibirsk - 1 Infantry
Timguska - 4 Infantry
Nenetsia - 1 Infantry
Urals - 1 Infantry
Evenkiyskiy - 1 Infantry
Yenisey - 4 Infantry, 2 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank
Yakut SSR - 4 Infantry
Buryatia - 4 Infantry, 2 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery
Sakha - 1 Infantry
Amur - 4 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 2 AA guns
Siberia - 2 Infantry
Soviet Far East - 2 Infantry
SZ 100 - 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer
SZ 127 - 1 Sub
SZ 115 - 1 Sub, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 5 - 1 Destroyer[Japan] - 31 IPCs
Japan - 6 Infantry, 1 Artilley, 1 Tank, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers, 1 Bomber, Major IC, 2 AA guns, Port, Airbase
Korea - 4 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Fighter, 2 AA guns
Manchuria - 6 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 2 Fighters, 2 Tactical Bombers, 2 AA guns
Jehol - 2 Infantry
Chahar - 2 Infantry, Control Marker
Shantung - 2 Infantry
Anhwe - 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, Control Marker
Kiangsu - 3 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, Port
Kiangsi - 1 Infantry
Kwangsi - 1 Infantry
Yunnan - 1 Infantry, Control Marker
French Indochina - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, Control Marker
Siam - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Formosa - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Okinawa - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, 1 Airbase
Iwo Jima - 1 Infantry
Marianas - 1 Infantry
Caroline Islands - 3 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, AA gun, Port, Airbase
Paulau Island - 1 Infantry
SZ 6 - 1 Sub, 2 Destroyers, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Carrier w/ 1 Fighter & 1 Tactical Bomber, 3 Transports
SZ 19 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 36 - 1 Sub, 2 Destroyers, 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 1 Carrier w/ 1 Fighter & 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Transport, 2 Infantry.
SZ 25 - 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer, 2 Carriers w/ 2 Fighters & 2 Tactical Bombers
SZ 33 - 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer, 2 Transports
SZ 37 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport, 2 Infantry[United States] - 52 IPCs
Eastern United States - 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, Minor IC, 2 AA guns, Port, Airbase
Central United States - 4 Infantry, 4 Mech Infantry, 2 Tanks, 1 Fighter, Minor IC
Western United States - 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, 1 Bomber, Minor IC, 2 AA guns, Port, Airbase
Alaska - 1 Infantry
Hawaiian Islands - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, AA gun, Port, Airbase
Midway - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Airbase
Wake Island - 1 Infantry, Airbase
Guam - Airbase
Philippines - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter
Central America - 1 Infantry, AA gun
SZ 101 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Sub, 1 Transport
SZ 102 - 1 Destroyer
SZ 64 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Battleship
SZ 10 - 1 Sub, 2 Destroyers, 2 Cruisers, 2 Transports
SZ 26 - 2 Battleships, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 28 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Sub, 2 Carriers w/ 2 Fighters & 2 Tactical Bombers
SZ 35 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport[China] - 9 IPCs
Szechwan - 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, AA gun
Hunan - 1 Infantry
Kweichow - 1 Infantry
Hopei - 1 Infantry
Shensi - 2 Infantry
Suiyuyan - 2 Infantry
Kansu - 1 Infantry
Sikang - 1 Infantry
Tsinghai - 1 Infantry[United Kingdom Europe] - 29 IPCs
United Kingdom - 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, Major IC (With 10 Points of Damage), 4 AA Guns, Port (With 3 Points of Damage), Airbase (With 3 Points of Damage)
Scotland - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 2 Fighters, 1 Bomber, Airbase
Iceland - 1 Infantry, Airbase
Gibraltar - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 AA gun, Port
Malta - 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, AA gun, Airbase (With 5 Points of Damage)
Crete - 1 Infantry, Control Marker
Tobruk - 1 Tank, Control Marker
Alexandria - 1 Infantry
Egypt - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank, AA gun, Port
Trans-Jordan - 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Anglo Egyptian Sudan - 1 Infantry
Kenya - 1 Infantry
Ethiopia - 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, Control Marker
French Equatorial Africa - Control Marker
Union of South Africa - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, AA gun, Minor IC, Port
Southwest Africa - 1 Infantry
New Brunswick/Nova Scotia - Port
Quebec - 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, Minor IC
Ontario - 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba - 1 Infantry
British Colombia [Western Canada] - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry
SZ 106 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
SZ 117 - 1 Cruiser
SZ 109 - 1 Transport
SZ 119 - 1 Sub, 2 Cruisers, 1 Battleship
SZ 111 - 1 Destroyer
SZ 92 - 1 Carrier, 1 Tactical Bomber
SZ 99 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
SZ 98 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Sub
SZ 82 - 1 Sub
SZ 71 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport[United Kingdom Pacific] - 24 IPCs
India - 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, Major IC, 3 AA guns, Port, Airbase
West India - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, AA gun
Burma - 2 Infantry
Malaya - 3 Infantry
Kwangtung - 2 Infantry
Sumatra - Control Marker
Celebes - Control Marker
SZ 39 - 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer, 1 Carrier w/ 1 Fighter, 1 Transport
SZ 37 - 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship[Italy] - 14 IPCs
Southern Italy - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, Minor IC, 2 AA guns, Port (5 Points of Damage), Airbase
Northern Italy - 2 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Bomber, Major IC, 2 AA guns
Sicily - 1 Infantry, 1 Tactical Bomber, Airbase
Southern France - 1 Infantry
Yugoslavia - 2 Infantry, Control Marker
Albania - 1 Infantry
Greece - 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, Control Marker
Romania - 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Tunisia - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank, Control Marker
Libya - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, AA Gun
Italian Somaliland - 1 Infantry
British Somaliland - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, Control Marker
SZ 95 - 1 Sub, 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 97 - 1 Battleship (Damaged)
SZ 93 - 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport
SZ 96 - 1 Cruiser, 1 Transport[ANZAC] - 14 IPCs
New South Wales - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tactical Bomber, AA Gun, Minor IC, Port
Queensland - 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, Port, AA Gun, Airbase
Western Australia - 1 Infantry
New Zealand - 1 Infantry, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, Minor IC, AA Gun, Port, Airbase
New Hebrides - Control Marker
New Guinea - 1 Infantry
Dutch New Guinea - Control Marker
Java - Control Marker
Malaya - 1 Infantry
Shan State - 1 Infantry
India - 1 Infantry
Egypt - 1 Infantry
Alexandria - 1 Mech Infantry
Tobruk - 1 Infantry
SZ 54 - 1 Destroyer, 1 Sub
SZ 62 - 1 Transport
SZ 63 - 1 Cruiser
SZ 39 - 1 Cruiser
SZ 98 - 1 Destroyer[France] - 0 IPCs
United Kingdom - 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Egypt - 1 Infantry
French Equatorial Africa - 1 Mech Infantry -
In a recent game I played as the Allies and let a buddy tackle the Axis. He shortchanged himself by underbuilding at the southern France factory (he was intent on helping Italy with Germany) but only built a cruiser, sub and transport there (and moved the DD over)
The UK attacked this fleet, killing a German DD, CR, TRN and Italian CR and TRN.
He was quite mad, but learned an important lesson. The UK can NOT let the Germans get off cheap and flood Africa with Germans. I had to kill it.
After a few rounds we discussed that he should have bought a carrier or airbase for southern france if he wanted to go that route.Imagine a purchase such as that as German forces swooping in and taking over the Vichy French navy (not really building ships in the med, but paying to steal ones already there)
The game is still ongoing, but as a warning to Axis players, don’t try and be cheap about helping Italy, or the UK will attack and kill that fleet. (unless you kill that UK Carrier)
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It’s good more brit power was added to the med IMO. I beleive the setup we have is actually the Alpha 2 one (might update, but none of us is too keen on the AA gun change)
It looks like the DD in 92 got upgraded to a tac and the sub in 99 moved south to 98 while a DD and trn got added there.
It seems that germany still has decent odds for a med wipe (or at least blocking the 98 fleet from going anywhere in combat move the UK turn.), but it was too easy before.
It’s a cool challenge for the Germans that yugoslavia starts out italian and thus ineligible for the German factory.
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It is seeming to be the best option for germany to move its Med DD over to 97 on G1 to protect the Italian BB from the UK sub.
Yugoslavia is italian, but Germany starts with the south france factory.
And take this advice: don’t resist the AA gun rule change. It makes the game a LOT better.
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