• 2007 AAR League

    @Veqryn:

    @pug6000:

    12.5 % chance on taking Stockholm. Interesting.

    U505 may not know that the battle calculator does not realize marines attack at 3 amphibiously, because it assumes all battles are nonamphibious
    (the workaround is to change them to grenadiers in the calc)

    Yeah, I figured that out a while ago when I ran a sim for a very small battle that didn’t seem to add up. 12.5% isn’t high enough to scare me. It would end the game for sure, but I’m more likely to come out ahead in that attack so I’m ok with it.

    I actually change both marines and grenadiers to cuirassiers in the sim screen so I don’t have to scroll down to see all of the units in the battle. It’s easier for me when calculating a round by round exchange. I change all of the defensive units that hit at 2 to fusiliers for the same reason.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :17

    Combat Move - Russia
                1 Kutusov moved from Lazes to Georgia
                      Russia take Georgia from OttomanEmpire
                1 Kutusov moved from Georgia to Karamania
                5 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars, 1 Kutusov and 3 Mortarss moved from Lazes to Karamania
                1 Fusiliers moved from Astrakahn to Lazes
                2 Hussarss moved from Mordvins to Lazes
                1 Fusiliers moved from Odessa to SZ101
                1 Fusiliers moved from SZ101 to Crimea
                1 Fusiliers moved from Odessa to Crimea
                1 Horse_Artillery moved from Kazan to Crimea
                4 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Kazan to Astrakahn
                1 Frigate moved from SZ5 to SZ6
                1 Cutter moved from SZ7 to SZ6
                1 Cutter moved from SZ8 to SZ6
                1 Barque moved from SZ5 to SZ6

    Purchase Units - Russia
                Russia buy 1 Artillery, 2 Brigantines, 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss and 1 Marines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - Russia
                Battle in SZ6
                    KingdomOfPrussia loiter and taunt with ; Russia attack with 1 Barque, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates
                    Sweden defend with 1 Corvette
                        Sweden roll dice for 1 Corvette in SZ6, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Barque, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates in SZ6, round 1 :  3/1 hits
                        1 Corvette owned by the Sweden lost in SZ6
                    Russia win with 1 Barque, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for Sweden: 1 Corvette
                Battle in Crimea
                    Russia attack with 2 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery
                    OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Battleship in Crimea, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 2 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery in Crimea, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines in Crimea, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia and 1 Fusiliers owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Crimea
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery in Crimea, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Marines in Crimea, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery in Crimea, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Marines in Crimea, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery in Crimea, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Marines in Crimea, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Marines owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Crimea
                    Russia win, taking Crimea from OttomanEmpire with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                    Casualties for Russia: 1 Fusiliers
                Battle in Karamania
                    Russia attack with 5 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss
                    OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        Russia roll dice for 5 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss in Karamania, round 1 :  17/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Karamania, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Karamania
                    Russia win, taking Karamania from OttomanEmpire with 5 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Fusiliers
                1 General moved from Latvia to Minsk

    Place Units - Russia
                1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers placed in Odessa
                1 Marines placed in Finland
                2 Brigantines placed in SZ5
                2 Fusilierss placed in Mordvins
                2 Dragoonss placed in Moscovia

    Turn Complete - Russia
                Russia collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total

    Territory Summary for Russia :

    SZ101 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Battleship
        Astrakahn : 1 flag, 4 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery
        Wallachia : 1 flag
        Mordvins : 1 flag, 1 Encampment and 2 Fusilierss
        Lazes : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Hussarss
        Latvia : 1 flag, 3 Artillerys and 3 Fusilierss
        Tsaritsyn : 1 flag
        Georgia : 1 flag
        Minsk : 1 flag, 1 Fortress and 1 General
        Odessa : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 1 General
        SZ5 : 1 flag, 2 Brigantines
        SZ6 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates
        Karelia : 1 flag
        Kirghix : 1 flag
        Finland : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Grenadiers, 1 Howitzer, 3 Mariness and 3 Mortella_Towers
        Crimea : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery
        Macedonia : 1 flag
        Serbia : 1 flag
        SZ103 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
        Bulgaria : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss
        Moscovia : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 2 Dragoonss and 1 Mortella_Tower
        Moldavia : 1 flag
        Bessarabia : 1 flag
        Karamania : 1 flag, 5 Cuirassierss, 18 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 10 Horse_Artillerys, 1 Hussars, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 54
        UnitedKingdom : 52 / 51
        Spain : 47 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
        Sweden : 22 / 22
        AustrianEmpire : 43 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48

  • 2007 AAR League

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - France
                1 Hussars moved from Leon to Estremadura
                      Spain take Estremadura from AustrianEmpire
                1 Hussars moved from Estremadura to Leon
                6 Artillerys, 4 Chasseurss, 25 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 20 Howitzers moved from Leon to Oporto

    Purchase Units - France
                France buy 2 Cutters and 10 Fusilierss; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Combat - France

    Non Combat Move - France
                1 Cuirassiers, 1 Dragoons, 7 Horse_Artillerys and 4 Hussarss moved from Navarre to Leon
                1 Barque moved from SZ47 to SZ41
                2 Battleships and 2 Cutters moved from SZ33 to SZ41
                1 Cutter moved from SZ30 to SZ34
                3 Corvettes moved from SZ33 to SZ35
                4 Battleships, 7 Brigantines, 3 Corvettes and 5 Cutters moved from SZ33 to SZ34
                1 Fusiliers moved from Cologne to Flanders
                1 Fusiliers moved from Anjou to Auvergne
                10 Chasseurss, 24 Fusilierss, 9 Howitzers and 1 Mortars moved from Champagne to Cologne
                1 Dragoons and 1 Hussars moved from Auvergne to Cologne
                2 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars moved from Brittany to Auvergne
                1 Hussars moved from Valais to Auvergne
                1 Barque moved from SZ36 to SZ34

    Place Units - France
                2 Cutters placed in SZ34
                10 Fusilierss placed in Orleanais

    Turn Complete - France
                France collect 48 PUs; end with 50 PUs total
                Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: France met a national objective for an additional -6 PUs; end with 44 PUs

    Territory Summary for France :

    Valais : 1 flag, 1 Dragoons and 1 Hussars
        SZ35 : 1 flag, 3 Corvettes
        SZ28 : 1 flag
        SZ41 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 2 Battleships and 2 Cutters
        Languedoc : 1 flag, 1 Hussars
        Burgundy : 1 flag, 2 Dragoonss and 2 Hussarss
        Flanders : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        SZ34 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 4 Battleships, 7 Brigantines, 3 Corvettes and 8 Cutters
        Leon : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Dragoons, 7 Horse_Artillerys and 5 Hussarss
        Auvergne : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 2 Hussarss
        Oporto : 1 flag, 6 Artillerys, 4 Chasseurss, 25 Fusilierss, 2 Grenadierss and 20 Howitzers
        Cologne : 1 flag, 10 Chasseurss, 1 Dragoons, 24 Fusilierss, 9 Howitzers, 1 Hussars and 1 Mortars
        Orleanais : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 10 Fusilierss, 10 Howitzers and 3 Mortella_Towers
        Gascony : 1 flag, 1 Hussars
        Brittany : 1 flag, 1 Fortress, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Marines
        Champagne : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 52 / 51
        Spain : 48 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
        Sweden : 22 / 22
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
                1 Cutter moved from SZ29 to SZ28
                      UnitedKingdom take SZ28 from France
                1 Cutter moved from SZ28 to SZ26
                1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from Scotland to Highland
                2 Barques, 3 Battleships, 8 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 13 Cutters and 1 Frigate moved from SZ22 to SZ17
                3 Mariness moved from Corsica to SZ63
                1 Barque and 3 Mariness moved from SZ63 to SZ57
                1 Cutter moved from SZ62 to SZ57
                1 Frigate and 1 Marines moved from SZ60 to SZ57
                4 Mariness moved from SZ57 to Majorca
                1 Brigantine and 1 Marines moved from SZ60 to SZ57
                1 Marines moved from SZ57 to Catalonia
                3 Cutters and 1 Frigate moved from SZ69 to SZ60

    Purchase Units - UnitedKingdom
                UnitedKingdom buy 2 Cutters, 1 Encampment, 2 Frigates and 1 Marines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat - UnitedKingdom
                Battle in SZ57
                    UnitedKingdom attack with 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate
                    Spain defend with 1 Cutter
                        UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate in SZ57, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        Spain roll dice for 1 Cutter in SZ57, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Cutter owned by the Spain lost in SZ57
                    UnitedKingdom win with 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Spain: 1 Cutter
                Battle in Catalonia
                Battle in Majorca
                    UnitedKingdom attack with 4 Mariness
                    Spain defend with 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mortella_Towers
                        UnitedKingdom roll dice for 4 Mariness in Majorca, round 1 :  2/0 hits
                        Spain roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mortella_Towers in Majorca, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        2 Mortella_Towers owned by the Spain and 1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in Majorca
                        UnitedKingdom roll dice for 3 Mariness in Majorca, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                        Spain roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Majorca, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the Spain lost in Majorca
                    UnitedKingdom win, taking Catalonia from Spain, taking Majorca from Spain with 3 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Spain: 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mortella_Towers
                    Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Marines

    Non Combat Move - UnitedKingdom
                1 General moved from Scotland to Highland

    Place Units - UnitedKingdom
                1 Marines placed in Highland
                1 Encampment placed in Corsica
                2 Cutters and 2 Frigates placed in SZ69

    Turn Complete - UnitedKingdom
                UnitedKingdom collect 61 PUs; end with 62 PUs total
                Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: UnitedKingdom met a national objective for an additional -4 PUs; end with 58 PUs

    Territory Summary for UnitedKingdom :

    SZ61 : 1 flag
        Scotland : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
        Corsica : 1 flag, 1 Encampment
        SZ69 : 1 flag, 2 Cutters and 2 Frigates
        Alemtejo : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Encampment, 3 Fusilierss, 6 Mariness and 2 Mortarss
        Majorca : 1 flag, 1 Encampment and 3 Mariness
        SZ26 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
        SZ17 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 3 Battleships, 8 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 13 Cutters and 1 Frigate
        Sicily : 1 flag
        Highland : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 2 Mariness
        Essex : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 4 Fusilierss and 5 Mortella_Towers
        Rome : 1 flag, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 2 Mortella_Towers
        Connaught : 1 flag
        South Wales : 1 flag, 1 Mortella_Tower
        Catalonia : 1 flag, 1 Marines
        Hanovre : 1 flag, 1 Fortress and 3 Mortella_Towers
        SZ60 : 1 flag, 5 Battleships, 7 Brigantines, 9 Cutters and 2 Frigates
        Leinster : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        SZ57 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate
        Oxfordshire : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss
        Eturia : 1 flag

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 61 / 58
        Spain : 45 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
        Sweden : 22 / 22
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48

  • 2007 AAR League

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - Spain
                3 Corvettes moved from SZ54 to SZ57
                1 Battleship moved from SZ54 to SZ57
                1 Cutter moved from SZ56 to SZ57
                2 Frigates moved from SZ54 to SZ57
                2 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from New Castille to Catalonia

    Purchase Units - Spain
                Spain buy 1 Battleship, 1 Corvette and 1 Cutter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat - Spain
                Battle in Catalonia
                    Spain attack with 2 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery
                    UnitedKingdom defend with 1 Marines
                        Spain roll dice for 2 Dragoonss and 1 Horse_Artillery in Catalonia, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Marines in Catalonia, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        1 Horse_Artillery owned by the Spain and 1 Marines owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in Catalonia
                    Spain win, taking Catalonia from UnitedKingdom with 2 Dragoonss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                    Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Marines
                    Casualties for Spain: 1 Horse_Artillery
                Battle in SZ57
                    Spain attack with 1 Battleship, 3 Corvettes, 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates
                    UnitedKingdom defend with 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Cutter and 1 Frigate
                        Spain roll dice for 3 Corvettes in SZ57, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        1 Cutter owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in SZ57
                        Spain roll dice for 1 Battleship, 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates in SZ57, round 1 :  2/0 hits
                        UnitedKingdom roll dice for 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine and 1 Frigate in SZ57, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        1 Barque owned by the UnitedKingdom , 1 Cutter owned by the Spain and 1 Brigantine owned by the UnitedKingdom lost in SZ57
                    3 Corvettes retreated to SZ56
                    1 Battleship and 2 Frigates retreated to SZ56
                    UnitedKingdom win with 1 Frigate remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                    Casualties for Spain: 1 Cutter
                    Casualties for UnitedKingdom: 1 Barque, 1 Brigantine and 1 Cutter

    Non Combat Move - Spain
                2 Barques, 5 Brigantines, 2 Corvettes, 12 Cutters and 3 Frigates moved from SZ54 to SZ56
                1 Cutter moved from SZ58 to SZ56
                1 Fusiliers moved from New Castille to Estremadura
                1 Cuirassiers moved from Andalusia to Leon
                1 Horse_Artillery moved from Oporto to Leon
                1 Fusiliers moved from New Castille to Andalusia
                1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss and 3 Mariness moved from New Castille to Valencia

    Place Units - Spain
                1 Battleship placed in SZ56
                1 Corvette and 1 Cutter placed in SZ54

    Turn Complete - Spain
                Spain collect 46 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
                Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: Spain met a national objective for an additional -10 PUs; end with 37 PUs

    Territory Summary for Spain :

    Sardinia : 1 flag, 2 Fortresss and 3 Mortella_Towers
        Valencia : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss, 1 General and 3 Mariness
        El Erg : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars
        Tangiers : 1 flag, 1 General
        Oran : 1 flag
        Leon : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers and 1 Horse_Artillery
        Oporto : 1 flag
        Atlas : 1 flag
        Estremadura : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Catalonia : 1 flag, 2 Dragoonss
        SZ54 : 1 flag, 1 Corvette and 1 Cutter
        West Sahara : 1 flag
        Algeria : 1 flag
        Andalusia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Areg : 1 flag
        SZ56 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 2 Battleships, 5 Brigantines, 5 Corvettes, 13 Cutters and 5 Frigates
        New Castille : 1 flag, 1 Capital and 20 Mortella_Towers

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 60 / 58
        Spain : 46 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
        Sweden : 22 / 22
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia
                1 Dragoons and 5 Horse_Artillerys moved from Alemtejo to Andalusia
                2 Chasseurss, 2 Dragoonss and 8 Fusilierss moved from Saxony to Hesse
                2 Dragoonss moved from Hollande to Hesse
                1 Fusiliers moved from Mecklenburg to Holstein
                1 Dragoons moved from Holstein to Hesse
                2 Fusilierss moved from Mecklenburg to Magdeburg
                1 Cuirassiers and 1 Dragoons moved from Pomerania to Magdeburg
                1 Fusiliers moved from Pomerania to Mecklenburg
                1 Fusiliers and 1 General moved from Pomerania to Brandenburg
                1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars moved from Prussia to Brandenburg
                1 Cuirassiers and 10 Fusilierss moved from Rhine to Hesse

    Purchase Units - KingdomOfPrussia
                KingdomOfPrussia buy 3 Chasseurss, 1 Cutter and 2 Horse_Artillerys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - KingdomOfPrussia
                Battle in Andalusia
                    KingdomOfPrussia attack with 1 Dragoons and 5 Horse_Artillerys
                    Spain defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Dragoons and 5 Horse_Artillerys in Andalusia, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        Spain roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Andalusia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the Spain lost in Andalusia
                    KingdomOfPrussia win, taking Andalusia from Spain with 1 Dragoons and 5 Horse_Artillerys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Spain: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - KingdomOfPrussia

    Place Units - KingdomOfPrussia
                1 Cutter placed in SZ7
                3 Chasseurss placed in Brandenburg
                2 Horse_Artillerys placed in Prussia

    Turn Complete - KingdomOfPrussia
                KingdomOfPrussia collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

    Territory Summary for KingdomOfPrussia :

    Brandenburg : 1 flag, 3 Chasseurss, 1 Fortress, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
        Algarve : 1 flag
        Pomerania : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Hesse : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss, 1 Cuirassiers, 12 Dragoonss and 18 Fusilierss
        SZ7 : 1 flag, 1 Cutter
        SZ6 : 1 flag, 1 Brigantine and 1 Frigate
        Holstein : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Prussia : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 14 Mortella_Towers
        Mecklenburg : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Magdeburg : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Dragoons and 2 Fusilierss
        Andalusia : 1 flag, 1 Dragoons and 5 Horse_Artillerys

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 62 / 58
        Spain : 44 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 31 / 31
        Sweden : 22 / 22
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48

    Dice Statistics:

    Total
                4 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 4,500
            Median : 4,500
            Variance : 2,000
            Standard Deviation : 1,414
            Total rolls : 2

    Spain Combat
                4 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 4,000
            Median : 4,000
            Variance : ?
            Standard Deviation : ?
            Total rolls : 1

    KingdomOfPrussia Combat
                5 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 5,000
            Median : 5,000
            Variance : ?
            Standard Deviation : ?
            Total rolls : 1


  • You got a perfect timing. Your moves arrive shortly after start with work. Nice way to start work  :-D

    And yes, I will keep Mallorca. No mistake this time. Made too many small mistakes lately, like not blocking the way to Egypt.

  • 2007 AAR League

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - Sweden
                4 Fusilierss moved from Ostra Gotaland to SZ9
                4 Barques, 1 Battleship, 2 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 2 Frigates and 4 Fusilierss moved from SZ9 to SZ10
                2 Fusilierss moved from SZ10 to Mecklenburg
                2 Fusilierss moved from SZ10 to Holstein
                1 Chasseurs and 1 Fusiliers moved from Jutland to Holstein

    Purchase Units - Sweden
                Sweden buy 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cutter and 2 Mortella_Towers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - Sweden
                Battle in Holstein
                    Sweden attack with 1 Chasseurs and 3 Fusilierss
                    KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        Sweden roll dice for 1 Battleship in Holstein, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Sweden roll dice for 1 Chasseurs and 3 Fusilierss in Holstein, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Sweden roll dice for 1 Chasseurs and 3 Fusilierss in Holstein, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                        KingdomOfPrussia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Holstein, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Holstein
                    Sweden win, taking Holstein from KingdomOfPrussia with 1 Chasseurs and 3 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Fusiliers
                Battle in Mecklenburg
                    Sweden attack with 2 Fusilierss
                    KingdomOfPrussia defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        Sweden roll dice for 2 Frigates in Mecklenburg, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the KingdomOfPrussia lost in Mecklenburg
                    Sweden win, taking Mecklenburg from KingdomOfPrussia with 2 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for KingdomOfPrussia: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - Sweden
                1 General moved from Ostra Gotaland to Skane
                1 Cutter moved from SZ19 to SZ11

    Place Units - Sweden
                1 Cutter placed in SZ10
                1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 2 Mortella_Towers placed in Svealand

    Turn Complete - Sweden
                Sweden collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUs total

    Territory Summary for Sweden :

    Norvege : 1 flag
        Bohus : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
        Svealand : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Capital, 1 Chasseurs, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Howitzer and 4 Mortella_Towers
        Jutland : 1 flag, 2 Fortresss
        Skane : 1 flag, 1 General
        SZ10 : 1 flag, 4 Barques, 1 Battleship, 2 Brigantines, 1 Corvette, 1 Cutter and 2 Frigates
        Holstein : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs and 3 Fusilierss
        SZ11 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Cutter
        Mecklenburg : 1 flag, 2 Fusilierss

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 62 / 58
        Spain : 44 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 31
        Sweden : 25 / 25
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 43
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - AustrianEmpire
                8 Fusilierss moved from Bavaria to Hesse
                2 Artillerys moved from Bavaria to Rhine
                6 Fusilierss moved from Salzburg to Bavaria
                6 Chasseurss and 1 Fusiliers moved from Austria to Salzburg
                3 Cutters moved from SZ67 to SZ60
                1 Frigate moved from SZ64 to SZ60
                2 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 2 Cuirassierss, 2 Dragoonss, 16 Fusilierss, 1 Grenadiers and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Algarve to Andalusia
                1 Dragoons moved from Alemtejo to Andalusia

    Purchase Units - AustrianEmpire
                AustrianEmpire buy 3 Chasseurss, 3 Fusilierss and 2 Mortarss; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Non Combat Move - AustrianEmpire

    Place Units - AustrianEmpire
                2 Mortarss placed in Bavaria
                3 Chasseurss and 3 Fusilierss placed in Austria

    Turn Complete - AustrianEmpire
                AustrianEmpire collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs total

    Territory Summary for AustrianEmpire :

    Slavonia : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
        Bosnia : 1 flag
        Lombardi : 1 flag
        Albania : 1 flag
        Hesse : 1 flag, 8 Fusilierss
        Austria : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 3 Chasseurss, 3 Fusilierss and 1 Mortella_Tower
        Venetia : 1 flag, 6 Dragoonss and 3 Horse_Artillerys
        Bologna : 1 flag
        Salzburg : 1 flag, 6 Chasseurss, 1 Fortress and 1 Fusiliers
        Liguria : 1 flag, 1 Hussars
        Bavaria : 1 flag, 6 Fusilierss, 1 General and 2 Mortarss
        Macedonia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Serbia : 1 flag, 1 Howitzer
        Rhine : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys, 13 Chasseurss, 2 Dragoonss, 31 Fusilierss and 1 Horse_Artillery
        Umbria : 1 flag
        Provence : 1 flag, 1 Hussars
        SZ60 : 1 flag, 3 Cutters and 1 Frigate
        Bulgaria : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 9 Fusilierss and 1 Marines
        Andalusia : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys, 6 Chasseurss, 2 Cuirassierss, 3 Dragoonss, 16 Fusilierss, 1 Grenadiers and 1 Horse_Artillery
        Hellas : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Thessaly : 1 flag

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 62 / 58
        Spain : 44 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 31
        Sweden : 25 / 25
        AustrianEmpire : 42 / 42
        OttomanEmpire : 34 / 38
        Russia : 48 / 48


  • Sweden will never be that big again.

    At first I thought: wonderful move for Prussia and Russia from Sweden. Many troops withdrawn from home defence. But the idea looks good on a closer look. you can at least rescue the Swedish navy and can defend the convoy income zone.

    Pug

  • Customizer

    i’m sorta wondering if it would have been better for france to go to madrid first, rather than go straight for the camp

    by going through madrid, the coalition has nowhere to run


  • @Veqryn:

    i’m sorta wondering if it would have been better for france to go to madrid first, rather than go straight for the camp

    by going through madrid, the coalition has nowhere to run

    One more turn to build fortresses. France has no comfortable superiority in Spain. 3 more fortresses (in that case a total of 6 fortresses, so double the losses) cost about 10 more losses (so 20 more losses in case he had taken the way close to Madrid). I just didnt build fortresses, because I had the chance to move on and cause more trouble.

  • Customizer

    FYI: round 1 is winding down very soon, and this is one of only 2 games not finished.

    since you guys are still really close, i’m going to extend the deadline

    but do try to play fast to finish this up


  • @Veqryn:

    but do try to play fast to finish this up

    Ok, I will increase the pressure  :-D

  • 2007 AAR League

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
                1 Fusiliers moved from Armenia to Georgia
                      OttomanEmpire take Georgia from Russia
                2 Mariness moved from Egypt to SZ86
                1 Barque, 1 Brigantine and 2 Mariness moved from SZ86 to SZ82
                1 Fusiliers moved from Candia to SZ82
                1 Barque, 1 Brigantine, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness moved from SZ82 to SZ80
                1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness moved from SZ80 to Hellas
                2 Frigates moved from SZ95 to SZ94
                1 Marines moved from Constantinople to SZ92
                1 Fusiliers moved from Kiutayeh to SZ92
                1 Barque, 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ92 to SZ94
                1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines moved from SZ94 to Odessa
                2 Barques moved from SZ95 to SZ92
                1 Horse_Artillery moved from Constantinople to SZ92
                1 Marines moved from Constantinople to SZ92
                1 Fusiliers moved from Kiutayeh to SZ92
                2 Barques, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines moved from SZ92 to SZ95
                1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines moved from SZ95 to Crimea

    Purchase Units - OttomanEmpire
                OttomanEmpire buy 2 Chasseurss, 4 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - OttomanEmpire
                Battle in Odessa
                    OttomanEmpire attack with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                    Russia defend with 1 Artillery, 1 Fusiliers and 1 General
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 2 Frigates in Odessa, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        1 Artillery owned by the Russia lost in Odessa
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines in Odessa, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Odessa, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines in Odessa, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Odessa, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia lost in Odessa
                    OttomanEmpire win, taking Odessa from Russia with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for Russia: 1 Artillery and 1 Fusiliers
                Battle in Crimea
                    OttomanEmpire attack with 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines
                    Russia defend with 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines in Crimea, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery in Crimea, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Horse_Artillery owned by the Russia lost in Crimea
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines in Crimea, round 2 :  1/0 hits
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Crimea, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the Russia lost in Crimea
                    OttomanEmpire win, taking Crimea from Russia with 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for Russia: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Horse_Artillery
                Battle in Hellas
                    OttomanEmpire attack with 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
                    AustrianEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness in Hellas, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        AustrianEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Hellas, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the AustrianEmpire lost in Hellas
                    OttomanEmpire win, taking Hellas from AustrianEmpire with 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for AustrianEmpire: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - OttomanEmpire
                1 Hussars moved from Tarsus to Syria
                1 Fusiliers moved from Palestine to Syria
                3 Marshals moved from Egypt to Syria
                1 Fusiliers moved from Sinop to Kiutayeh
                2 Hussarss moved from Constantinople to Kiutayeh
                1 Artillery, 21 Chasseurss, 2 Dragoonss, 11 Fusilierss, 1 General, 1 Horse_Artillery, 3 Howitzers and 1 Mortars moved from Anatolia to Kiutayeh
                1 Fusiliers moved from Kiutayeh to Smyrna
                1 Fusiliers moved from Kiutayeh to Sinop

    Place Units - OttomanEmpire
                2 Chasseurss placed in Kiutayeh
                4 Fusilierss and 2 Mariness placed in Constantinople

    Turn Complete - OttomanEmpire
                OttomanEmpire collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

    Territory Summary for OttomanEmpire :

    SZ80 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Brigantine
        SZ98 : 1 flag
        Armenia : 1 flag
        Midian : 1 flag
        SZ95 : 1 flag, 2 Barques
        Georgia : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Egypt : 1 flag
        Odessa : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Marines
        Constantinople : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 7 Fortresss, 4 Fusilierss, 2 Mariness and 25 Mortella_Towers
        Crimea : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Marines
        Sinai : 1 flag
        Sinop : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Edessa : 1 flag
        Jordan : 1 flag
        Palestine : 1 flag
        SZ94 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 2 Frigates
        Smyrna : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Kiutayeh : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 23 Chasseurss, 2 Dragoonss, 13 Fusilierss, 1 General, 1 Horse_Artillery, 3 Howitzers, 2 Hussarss and 1 Mortars
        Syria : 1 flag, 2 Chasseurss, 2 Fusilierss, 1 Hussars and 3 Marshals
        Hellas : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers and 2 Mariness
        Candia : 1 flag, 1 Encampment and 1 Mortella_Tower
        Anatolia : 1 flag, 1 Mortella_Tower

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 62 / 58
        Spain : 44 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 31
        Sweden : 25 / 25
        AustrianEmpire : 40 / 42
        OttomanEmpire : 41 / 41
        Russia : 43 / 48

  • 2007 AAR League

    @pug6000:

    Sweden will never be that big again.

    At first I thought: wonderful move for Prussia and Russia from Sweden. Many troops withdrawn from home defence. But the idea looks good on a closer look. you can at least rescue the Swedish navy and can defend the convoy income zone.

    Pug

    Yes, it helps the French a little, as well. It makes it a little harder for England to split their fleet with the Swedish fleet in the Channel.

    Sweden seems the type of country that has the sole purpose of tying up enemy resources to help it’s allies instead of being offensive for it’s own sake.

  • 2007 AAR League

    @pug6000:

    @Veqryn:

    i’m sorta wondering if it would have been better for france to go to madrid first, rather than go straight for the camp

    by going through madrid, the coalition has nowhere to run

    One more turn to build fortresses. France has no comfortable superiority in Spain. 3 more fortresses (in that case a total of 6 fortresses, so double the losses) cost about 10 more losses (so 20 more losses in case he had taken the way close to Madrid). I just didnt build fortresses, because I had the chance to move on and cause more trouble.

    Veqryn, Pug is right. Once the encampment was built, in order to minimize my losses taking it, I had to move on in quickly to prevent defensive units being built there. I accepted the fact that I would have to chase him down if he abandoned it.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

    Game History

    Round :18

    Combat Move - Russia
                1 Hussars moved from Karamania to Antioch
                      Russia take Tarsus from OttomanEmpire
                      Russia take Antioch from OttomanEmpire
                1 Hussars moved from Lazes to Armenia
                      Russia take Armenia from OttomanEmpire
                1 Hussars moved from Armenia to Edessa
                      Russia take Edessa from OttomanEmpire
                1 Cuirassiers moved from Karamania to Georgia
                1 Hussars moved from Lazes to Georgia
                1 Horse_Artillery moved from Astrakahn to Georgia
                1 Fusiliers moved from Mordvins to SZ101
                1 Fusiliers moved from SZ101 to Odessa
                1 Fusiliers moved from Mordvins to Odessa
                4 Dragoonss moved from Astrakahn to Odessa
                2 Dragoonss moved from Moscovia to Odessa
                5 Dragoonss and 5 Horse_Artillerys moved from Karamania to Antioch
                5 Dragoonss and 5 Horse_Artillerys moved from Karamania to Edessa
                4 Cuirassierss, 8 Dragoonss, 5 Fusilierss, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss moved from Karamania to Lazes
                2 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates moved from SZ6 to SZ9
                1 Barque moved from SZ6 to SZ7
                1 Fusiliers moved from Latvia to SZ7
                1 Barque and 1 Fusiliers moved from SZ7 to SZ9
                1 Fusiliers moved from SZ9 to Ostra Gotaland
                      Russia take Ostra Gotaland from Sweden
                1 Marines moved from Finland to SZ5
                2 Brigantines and 1 Marines moved from SZ5 to SZ9
                1 Marines moved from SZ9 to Pomerania
                3 Artillerys and 2 Fusilierss moved from Latvia to Lithuania

    Purchase Units - Russia
                Russia buy 2 Barques, 2 Fusilierss, 1 General and 2 Horse_Artillerys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - Russia
                Battle in Odessa
                    Russia attack with 6 Dragoonss and 2 Fusilierss
                    OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers, 1 General and 1 Marines
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Battleship in Odessa, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Odessa
                        Russia roll dice for 6 Dragoonss and 2 Fusilierss in Odessa, round 1 :  2/1 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Marines in Odessa, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Marines owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Odessa
                    Russia win, taking Odessa from OttomanEmpire with 6 Dragoonss and 2 Fusilierss remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                    Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Fusiliers and 1 Marines
                Battle in Georgia
                    Russia attack with 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
                    OttomanEmpire defend with 1 Fusiliers
                        Russia roll dice for 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars in Georgia, round 1 :  1/0 hits
                        OttomanEmpire roll dice for 1 Fusiliers in Georgia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        1 Fusiliers owned by the OttomanEmpire lost in Georgia
                    Russia win, taking Georgia from OttomanEmpire with 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for OttomanEmpire: 1 Fusiliers

    Non Combat Move - Russia
                1 General moved from Minsk to Latvia

    Place Units - Russia
                1 General placed in Lazes
                2 Fusilierss placed in Mordvins
                2 Horse_Artillerys placed in Moscovia
                2 Barques placed in SZ4
                Russia undo move 4.
                1 Barque placed in SZ7
                1 Barque placed in SZ4

    Turn Complete - Russia
                Russia collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total

    Territory Summary for Russia :

    Tarsus : 1 flag
        SZ101 : 1 flag, 1 Barque and 1 Battleship
        Astrakahn : 1 flag
        Wallachia : 1 flag
        Mordvins : 1 flag, 1 Encampment and 2 Fusilierss
        Armenia : 1 flag
        Lazes : 1 flag, 4 Cuirassierss, 8 Dragoonss, 6 Fusilierss, 1 General, 2 Kutusovs and 3 Mortarss
        Latvia : 1 flag, 1 General
        SZ9 : 1 flag, 1 Barque, 4 Brigantines, 4 Cutters and 3 Frigates
        Pomerania : 1 flag, 1 Marines
        Tsaritsyn : 1 flag
        Georgia : 1 flag, 1 Cuirassiers, 1 Horse_Artillery and 1 Hussars
        Minsk : 1 flag, 1 Fortress
        Odessa : 1 flag, 6 Dragoonss, 2 Fusilierss and 1 General
        SZ7 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
        SZ4 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
        Karelia : 1 flag
        Antioch : 1 flag, 5 Dragoonss, 5 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars
        Kirghix : 1 flag
        Finland : 1 flag, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Encampment, 1 Fusiliers, 1 Grenadiers, 1 Howitzer, 2 Mariness and 3 Mortella_Towers
        Macedonia : 1 flag
        Serbia : 1 flag
        Edessa : 1 flag, 5 Dragoonss, 5 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Hussars
        SZ103 : 1 flag, 1 Barque
        Bulgaria : 1 flag, 3 Fusilierss
        Moscovia : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 2 Horse_Artillerys and 1 Mortella_Tower
        Moldavia : 1 flag
        Ostra Gotaland : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
        Bessarabia : 1 flag
        Lithuania : 1 flag, 3 Artillerys and 2 Fusilierss
        Karamania : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers

    Production/PUs Summary :

    France : 48 / 44
        UnitedKingdom : 62 / 58
        Spain : 44 / 37
        KingdomOfPrussia : 28 / 31
        Sweden : 23 / 25
        AustrianEmpire : 40 / 42
        OttomanEmpire : 33 / 41
        Russia : 53 / 53

    Dice Statistics:

    Total
                2 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 1 times
                6 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 4,250
            Median : 4,500
            Variance : 1,333
            Standard Deviation : 1,155
            Total rolls : 4

    OttomanEmpire Combat
                4 was rolled 1 times
                6 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 5,000
            Median : 5,000
            Variance : 2,000
            Standard Deviation : 1,414
            Total rolls : 2

    Russia Combat
                2 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 3,500
            Median : 3,500
            Variance : 2,000
            Standard Deviation : 1,414
            Total rolls : 2


  • @U-505:

    Sweden seems the type of country that has the sole purpose of tying up enemy resources to help it’s allies instead of being offensive for it’s own sake.

    Most think so, but they are wrong. I think I won 50% of my games because they underestimated Swedens power. But it depends on the overall strategy.
    Some coalitions go against Sweden first. In that case Sweden has no chance at all. But if France is stronger inside Germany, Sweden can slowly build a large army and become an important power. Think of your Swedish stack in Jutland, just larger and with some pressure on Prussia from France.

  • Customizer

    sweden actually starts with a very high TUV, higher than a lot of other powers

    the only problem is that russia can kill about a quarter of it without much trouble (though it does mean russia has to commit almost all it has to the job), and the rest is stuck in jutland

    as long as uk doesn’t gun for it, sweden can become quite big, and often result in the fall of prussia

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