11L Playoffs Rd 1 - Gamerman (Axis) vs. Lucky Lindy (Allies+8)

[gamerman01]

@LuckyLindy:

battleship
transport
3 infantry
fighter
destroyer

I don’t see no submarine

[LuckyLindy]

Aha, you are right - i was going to buy a submarine and a cruiser at one point.  I changed it to a destroyer, fighter in the end.

POL taken with artillery, 2 fighters

IND
A - 3 infantry, artillery, tank, fighter
Rolls: 2@1 2@2 2@3; Total Hits: 22@1: (2, 4)2@2: (3, 6)2@3: (1, 1)
D - infantry
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

[gamerman01]

After all that you only lost a meaningless sub and destroyer?!  Dammit!

66% chance of losing nothing or a sub
84.4% chance of losing sub and destroyer or less
93% chance of winning with at least a battleship

There was a 4.5% chance that I survive with a cruiser or more, and you would be attacking Poland with naked air for at least one round, and you would not be able to attack any land this turn (Norway lies vacant).  That was a very aggressive move, IMO.  :-)  You got away with it.

[gamerman01]

Chance that I lose a fighter in Manchuria to take it?

Less than ONE percent!
Right up there with my escapades with Japan last game.  Losing a cruiser in Zone 50 on round 1 - jeez.

So yeah, 7% chance of failing to take Z5 or losing everything including the Battleship (or higher than 7% if you would have retreated with the battleship intact) is 7 times more likely than what happened to me at Manchuria.  :-)  Oh well, them’s the breaks.  We all get burned from time to time.  UK2 was just not your time to get burned bad  :wink:

[LuckyLindy]

IND taken with 3 infantry, artillery, tank, fighter

Noncombat Moves

5 infantry, artillery from TRJ to PER
AA gun from PER to IND
fighter from IND to PER
2 infantry from RHO to SAF
bomber from WAF to PER
2 fighters from POL to Z5
tank from ECA to WCA
transport from Z43 to Z55

Mobilize

3 infantry in GBR
transport, destroyer, fighter, battleship in Z7

Income

32

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[gamerman01]

Was gonna go to bed, but shoot, it’s only Italy.  Let’s see if I can get them out of the way, here.

[LuckyLindy]

Here’s what I don’t know… never ran into this before.  If I had to retreat from the Z5 battle, what happens to the fighters there were being sent to POL?  Do they have to attack?  I didn’t even think of that.  I guess they would have to attack at least one round, but in this case, if they couldn’t land in Z5 (their only legal landing spot), they would be lost if retreating after one round anyway.  That could have really hurt, I thought I was getting unlucky but now I feel like I got VERY lucky!

Cheers

[gamerman01]

I2 with 17, buy 3 INF, AA (save 2)

Combat moves -
TrJ - 4 INF (Egy) INF, ART (Ita)

NCM -
Fra - INF, FTR (Ita)

Collect 23, 25 on hand

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[gamerman01]

@LuckyLindy:

Here’s what I don’t know… never ran into this before.  If I had to retreat from the Z5 battle, what happens to the fighters there were being sent to POL?  Do they have to attack?  I didn’t even think of that.  I guess they would have to attack at least one round, but in this case, if they couldn’t land in Z5 (their only legal landing spot), they would be lost if retreating after one round anyway.  That could have really hurt, I thought I was getting unlucky but now I feel like I got VERY lucky!

Cheers

Yes, you dodged a bullet even though you had 2/3 chance of losing nothing or only a sub.
Yes, the air would have to attack one round.  Yes, without a carrier (which you almost lost) you would be losing both fighters anyway so you would fight to the death anyway.  Both fighters flew 3 spaces to get to Poland?  Then yes, as you pointed out, if you had taken ONE more hit, you would have lost 2 more fighters!  You did dodge a major bullet there.

[gamerman01]

@Gamerman01:

if you had taken ONE more hit, you would have lost 2 more fighters!

If it would have been my parting cruiser shot, I suppose you might have been better off losing the battleship, with only the carrier surviving so that you could pick up air from Poland.

That double miss (when I was wishing for a double hit) turns out to be HUGE

[LuckyLindy]

I had another carrier in Z8 that could have come in to land the fighters, so I would have lost the carrier before the battleship.

[gamerman01]

@LuckyLindy:

I had another carrier in Z8 that could have come in to land the fighters, so I would have lost the carrier before the battleship.

I caught that after I left the computer.  I actually had to start it up again (complete with windows updates) to correct myself, but you beat me to it.

Anyway, you were still one hit from losing a carrier, and I know you’ve learned your lesson, which helps me live with the near miss of a disaster for you!  :cry:

[gamerman01]

Just in case you overlooked because it’s so small - I did complete Italy.  It’s your turn again.

[LuckyLindy]

@Gamerman01:

Just in case you overlooked because it’s so small - I did complete Italy.  It’s your turn again.

Are you able to move again tonight?

[LuckyLindy]

America turn 2

Purchase

56 IPC

2 submarines
tank
ac
fighter
destroyer
transport

China gets 2 infantry

Combat Moves

none

Noncombat Moves

America

2 infantry from WCA to ECA
destroyer from Z9 to Z19
fighter from ECA to Z56
2 bombers from GBR to ECA
bomber from WUS to ECA
2 fighters from AUS to IND
fighter from GBR to Z7

China

infantry from HUP to NIN

Mobilize

America

transport in Z10
tank in EUS
2 submarines, transport, destroyer, ac, fighter in Z56

China

2 infantry in CHI

Income

38 + 10 NO = 48

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[gamerman01]

Note that map has only one infantry moving to East Canada from West.  Transport placed in Z10 only, not in Z56.  G3 coming

[LuckyLindy]

@Gamerman01:

Note that map has only one infantry moving to East Canada from West.  Transport placed in Z10 only, not in Z56.  G3 coming

Yes to both, the map is right.

Cheers

[gamerman01]

G3 with 55, buy 6 INF, 3 ARM, AA, IC (save 1)

Combat moves -
Kar - 2 INF (Fin) INF, ART (BSt) 5 ARM (EPl)
Pol - 5 INF, 3 ARM (Ger) INF (EPl)
WAf - ARM (Sud)
Cng - ARM (Sud) blitz EAf
Bel - INF, ART (EPl)
Ukr - INF (EPl) BMB (Ita) FTR (Egy) BMB (Ger)
GBr - SBR (Ita)

GBr AARolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (3)

[gamerman01]

GBr SBRRolling 1:
(6)  
KarRolls: 2@1 2@2 5@3; Total Hits: 52@1: (4, 2)2@2: (2, 1)5@3: (3, 6, 1, 1, 6)Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 22@2: (1, 1)

[gamerman01]

London pounded, but the Russians more than make up for it by taking out 2 infantry divisions on the front lines.  Ouch.

UkrRolls: 1@1 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 21@1: (1)1@3: (6)1@4: (1)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)