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Interesting animation of German invasion of Soviet Union…

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Imperious Leader '17 '16 '15 Organizer '14 Customizer '13 '12 '11 '10
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http://english.pobediteli.ru/flash.html?DR=0
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Krupp Steel
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Very cool, thanks IL.
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FieldMarshalGames '10
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Highly recommended! Very indepth and full of Historical information / pictures and Video.

Not the USUAL animation for sure!

Covering the full conflict in the east.

Thanks for this post!
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Himilayas
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That was really neat, very informational and well done, thank you for sharing that.
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Thanks for sharing that!
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FieldMarshalGames '10
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BUMP This is cool if you have not seen it yet.
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What if U.S. invaded Soviet Union?

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The US opted for imperialism.

USSR was the lesser of three evils between Germany and Japan, the only reason America backed USSR. Also Japan and Germany threatened US imperialism and the US had to wait until an event like pearl harbor to appear to be the good guy.

USA opted for atrocities instead of invasion or truce in regards to Japan. The logic was, “make Japan surrender, take away their right to military, then try to offer them a right to a military when they are pro american.”

Problem is, Japan became isolationist after WWII, so US imperialism failed military in Japan, but economically it turned out pretty good.

Russia is a huge wrench in US imperialism, but not as bad as Germany would have been if in control of Europe (or Japan in Asia).

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THE PHILLIPINES WAS A MUST!!!

Folks, the war wasn’t like Axis and Allies, you didn’t know how many aircraft carriers and battleships your opponent had, or what weapons, or what secret technologies, you fought as best as you knew, and you hit the enemy where you knew you could.

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You know, I can stand on a cardboard box and screw in a light bulb, but what if I slip? or the carboard crumples? I might fall and break the light bulb… or my neck… Better to get a REAL step ladder, or a cinder block, and place it on the ground - JUST TO MAKE SURE, I have a fail safe point to operate from.

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@balungaloaf:

without US aid assistance via lend lease, without the allied strategic bombing campaign tying up much of the luftwaffe and anti air defenses, and without the threat of invasion keeping millions of german soldiers in europe, the soviets would have been smashed before they could ever set up a counter attack. if moscow was taken, the people would give up on their communist overlords and capitulate.

You alluded to the pressure the U.S. and Britain put on Germany; and I fully agree that pressure was immense. Even in 1940–before the U.S. was technically at war–its industrial production created profound implications for the balance of power in Europe. With massive numbers of American aircraft being produced and sent to Britain, Germany had to either a) find a way to keep pace, industrially, with the U.S. and Britain combined, or b) watch its cities and people be destroyed by waves of British and American bombers. The invasion of the Soviet Union was largely precipitated by the desire to allow Germany to attain the raw materials and industrial capacity to achieve outcome A.

However, keeping pace with the production capacity of the U.S. and Britain also required Germany to invest heavily in its own production facilities. That investment diverted effort from what would have been immediately useful production against the Soviet Union. During 1942, the Soviets out-produced the Germans 3:1 or even 4:1 in all major land categories of production, and even out-produced the Germans 2:1 in planes.

Prior to launching Operation Barbarossa, the German military staff had incorrectly believed that the Soviet Army consisted of 200 divisions. Divisions which had fought very poorly in the Soviets’ 1940 invasion of Finland. In the spring of 1941, the German Army consisted of 150 divisions; 100 of which were used for the invasion of the Soviet Union. But in the months after the invasion, the Soviets were quickly able to expand the size of their army to about 600 divisions. Given the imbalance of sheer numbers, it is very unlikely Germany could have prevailed in a war against the Soviet Union even despite its military’s advantage on a man-for-man basis.
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@Frontovik:

@shermantank28:

Read Antony Beevor’s Stalingrad, by far the best work on the subject

that is unbelievebly true
i have Berlin and D-day too
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No, The back half of russia is much like Alaska, a frozen wasteland. It would take them forever to get troops north of manchuria, and supplying them would be nearly impossible. There werent any natural resource up there so the japanese had no interest in “capturing” (if you can even call it that) north russia. It would be smarter to send troops into china or inda, where the resources were.

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