@ncscswitch:
Axis roll is correct in that if you move 4 spaces to combat, and the AC withdraws, the FIGs cannot retreat.
Also, you cannot partial retreat.
So once you pull back the ships, the FIGs also disengage from combat, even though they cannot leave the sea zone.
And to the prior question… yes the 2 FIGs would get their defensive rolls on the SUB.
I’m not disagreeing, but this is inconsistent with how other units retreat:
When an Inf retreats, it has moved its full amount.
A tank can retreat whether it has moved 1 or 2 spaces.
In fact, you can retreat to a territory on the other side of the target territory, provided that attacking units also came from that territory. eg. UK units attack Karelia from Norway and Archangel and UK tanks from Moscow, and then retreat. All units can retreat to Norway. You end up with Infantry that have moved 2 and Arm that have moved three, and this through hostile territory yet!
Where in LHTR does it say that Ftrs have different retreat rules?
Also re: subs firing:@axis_roll:
@mateooo:
quick question, probably an obvious answer
SS attacks AC 2 FTR
sub hits in the first strike round, and kills the AC
do the fighters get to strike back?
Im sure the answer is yes, but I would think it makes more sense to say no
that sub attacks before anyone knows its there. those fighters dont get a chance to take off… in real life.
of course it does take a little while for a carrier to sink…
Since there is no DD present, the carrier is sunk in opening fire.
According to LHTR, subs can submerge AFTER any round of battle as long as no enemy DD is present. This implies the ftrs do indeed get to fire upon the sub.
With respect, when the subs submerge has nothing to do with whether the Fighters are still alive to fire at them. If they sank with the AC, it doesn’t matter when or whether the subs submerge.
However, Mateoo makes a good point - it can take a while for an AC to sink. Perhaps the air units are patrolling anyway. The question is, when do Ftrs launch? Before the opening fire step? After it? During it?