British Wartime Income and Enemy Submarines

@trig said in Can submarines move through enemey channals like the suez Channel in combat move:

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My suggestion would be to have that sub moving through Suez wait to enter 83, and then raid in it. That would show you can seperate moves, and don’t have to do them sequentially.
Also, what was the point of the transport in 85? I didn’t see where that came up.

I was going to have the Japanese use their Surprise Attack ability to grant that submarine one more movement to go after the transport in 85. Maybe I’ll make the transport in 85 two naked CV’s instead.

You should probably also mention scrambling and maybe something with MAP, do cover all the bases. Maybe there is a plane on MAP in 82 or something to do with that in another spot? Just to show how this also applies during wartime moves after the DOW.
Overall, looks good! I would also probably mention some other possibilities, if say, GB does DOW and how that would work with screening forces.

Great ideas!

I really like the use of this system for all moves, and will definitely “house rule” it in.

I believe in the game designers and hope that with time, this system will be officially adopted! Other than the two GHG videos, this is how I would have thought the rules work as written.

For Wartime Economy, the v3 rules specify that « Each turn during its Place Units and Collect Income Phase, the nation rolls 2D6… » and « British Commonwealth may divide the money each turn… » (rule 7.8 & Global War Tech Sheet v3.0).

« Each turn » must mean the same in both sentences, so if you do it by the book, you would divide it between Commonwealth members during that same phase, not set it aside as a pool for the next purchasing phase.

However, in a friendly game, I would probably let the Commonwealth player redistribute the Wartime Economy as needed for purchases to speed things along.

HBG just posted an Errata Sheet to the rules :

Page 42:

Add “Submarines have a Target Selection of “1” to the list in 9.10

I think the “each time” thing threw you off a bit there too. That is more in reference to any attacks on other neutrals besides China (Warlords/KMT/CCP all included in that “China” umbrella), and not to potential other attacks on other Chinese factions.

But as GHG said, once a faction of any kind in China is attacked, the rest automatically align, so there couldn’t possibly be any other Chinese factions that could be considered neutral anymore anyways!

@trig Yeah I think it’s very tricky as the “Once” can be interprated in both ways. If @GeneralHandGrenade could enlighten us, that would be perfect

@GeneralHandGrenade The end of your “Misunderstood Rules” video reminded me of this discussion.

Upon reflection, I think what I was really getting at with the way the beta rules are written is that they never explicitly state that surface warships other than Destroyers cannot attack submarines with the help of an aircraft on MAP. It is only implied that other ships cannot do this.

While GHG and Munck are correct about income level and declaring war, I don’t think they answered your question.

What you said is correct. Your income on the chart goes up immediately (so you can declare war), but you don’t actually collect the income until the “Place Units and Collect Income” phase of your turn.

They collect separately. Even after the truce, they are separate countries and collect separately.