What happens when the Allies declare war on Vichy?
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I feel like the RAI (Rules as Intended) in this case is that if Vichy is taken, they surrender before alignment happens.
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@insanehoshi
If I remember correctly, GHG said that alignment happens immediately after combat. This allows these things to happen. Any Vichy left would align after combat is over, if not surrendered. -
@trig said in What happens when the Allies declare war on Vichy?:
@insanehoshi
If I remember correctly, GHG said that alignment happens immediately after combat. This allows these things to happen. Any Vichy left would align after combat is over, if not surrendered.True. He did say “immediately after combat.”
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@Trig @HBG-GW-Enthusiast When/Where did GHG say this?
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@captainnapalm
I believe it was his Dutch Pannekoek video. -
I looked for something similar about when the alignment takes effect in the rules but did not find it.
If you have to declare war before combat and declaring war causes the minor power to align, then Vichy would turn German before the combat takes place and we are back to the original question.
I personally think than an aligned Vichy should keep its own units, but this needs to be addressed in the Errata.
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@noneshallpass I found this in the comments, looking in the video. I believe he extrapolated this to all minors.
“GeneralHandGrenade
11 months ago
‘I should have explained that.
The answer is no. The British reference sheets says that they would take control or align the Netherlands at the end of the combat phase on the turn they were first attacked. I had them clarify that from V-2 because some players were a bit confused by the language. This is why I stressed in the video that they should only attack them once. Here is the V-3 reference sheet for now but it will be updated soon to correct a few mistakes;
https://www.historicalboardgaming.com/assets/images/HBG/GW1936v3/Ref Sheets/Great Britain 31.pdf’”Note, the link is old.
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@trig Best point, yet, thank you. If the Dutch Islands aligned as soon as Japan declared war, then Japan would be attacking British units. Thus, it must be that only what survives after combat aligns.
Now, what happens, if anything, to Vichy, if Paris is liberated?
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@captainnapalm I don’t believe anything happens.
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Vichy units are not in Paris, so nothing happens to them when Paris is liberated.
Only taking Southern France makes them surrender, pending clarification on if an when the are to be replaced by German units.
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