What is your first buy as UK (assuming baltic carrier)


  • UK will still have 1 ARM and 1 BOM in it, plus the US BOM and FIG.  And that is without the US SZ10 TRN’s offloading to UK.

    Now, move the Russian Sub to SZ6, forcing a naval battle before the amphib to weaken the German fleet.

    Germany can land, at best, 1 INF, 1 ARM.  No support shot.  And air power.  If Germany has staged a lot of AF in Western, then US lands 2 INF, 1 ART, 1 ARM in UK on US1.  Otherwise, it is one 1 and one 3 against two 1’s, one 3, and two 4’s.


  • i´m sorry
    i didnt get the part in which USA sends units

    you said that USA sends units if there is more than one German transport

    but still the US fleet is going on a suicide mission because the West European fighters can take it down easily

    -and UK will have a UK tenk also beacuse i assume you wanted to send the Canadian tenk to Norway


  • Not without losing a FIG on average.

    Also, Norway can be taken light if Germany vacated it.


  • what is ˝to vacate˝


  • Leave empty.

    Germany either sends all Norway units to Karelia, or transports some elsewhere, and the FIG flies away.


  • ok to solve these problem

    you play the allies i axis

    i vacate Norway, you attack it, you leave the russian sub in North Sea and reinforce UK(on which you already have 1art, 1ten and 1 bom) with 2 inf 1 art 1ten 1 bom 1 fig,
    your fighters are on the AC in the sea zone 3 together with 3 transports and a BB

    tell me if i missed something; if not i will explain then


  • If you left Norway empty, then UK took it with 1 INF from UK

    That leaves 1 INF, 1 ART, 2 ARM (1 from ECan) in UK, plus the UK Bomber, and the AF flown in from US.  Under that circumstance, I would not send US land forces to UK unless more than 3 FIGs in Western.


  • with germany i have 2 fig on Western Europe
    2 fighters on a carrier in the baltic
    1 fighter in Libya
    1 bomber in Libya

    what would you keep on UK


  • As the last post, due to 4 FIGs that can reach London.  US would also land forces in UK via SZ8 with DST to shield the TRNs.  (2 INF, 1 ART, 1 ARM added to UK forces)


  • now the defence is ok

    but with 4 land units in norway…

    but why do you sacrifice US fleet for Norway
    i dont see the point…
    please enlight me

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Forgot the US Fighter on UK, Switch.  I’da at least put a fighter there as well…


  • Because the US can replace navy, Germany really can;t replace FIGs.

    That US fleet is going to down 1 FIG, and pretty fair odds of 2.  US has already built 2 more TRNs, and has moved their Panama DST to SZ10 so they can repeat that move in US2.  Germany meanwhile has comitted 4 FIGs to kill those ships… 4 FIGs that cannot be sued to counter in Norway, nor be used against Russia in Ukraine or West Russia, or against UK in Egypt.

    Basically, it is a sucker move.

    You get Germany to commit and LOSE forces for no real gain, and draw Germany;s offesnvie pwoer away from battles where it could ahve a serious impact like Ukraine, Egypt, and Norway.

    And Norway is minus $3 to Germany and +$3 to UK, making up for the loss of India, and weakening Germany.

    So long as I can consistently weaken my opponent and still be able to maintain pressure, I will often sacrifice units to that end :-)

    And I thought I did specify that the US sent 1 FIG and 1 BOM to UK…


  • 1 send one bomber and two figters and you can shoot me down one fighter
    the odds for 2 arent in your favour

    if you want to loose units worth 28 for mine that worth 10 i will gladly say yes


  • But against 3 nations, that FIG cost Germany a lot more than those already replaced US units cost…

    USA will send the same 2 TRN, 1 DST again in US2.  Germany meanwhile is shy another FIG that was probably not replaced…


  • i hope ill play against you soon, you with the allies and i with the axis
    i think it should be a very interesting match

    but yes in this if you want to call it KGF Germany doesnt have much stocks

    but Germany has Japan which is by each turn growing bigger and bigger……

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ncscswitch:

    But against 3 nations, that FIG cost Germany a lot more than those already replaced US units cost…

    USA will send the same 2 TRN, 1 DST again in US2.  Germany meanwhile is shy another FIG that was probably not replaced…

    Which means Germany, most likely, is now down 2 of 6 fighters, a third of the luftwaffe and round 2 isn’t even over yet!


  • ok i am just saying that germany can take moscow, hold berlin and rome while waiting for Japan to finish the work


  • @ncscswitch:

    1 AC, 1 TRN, 2 INF.

    Move existing fleet (inlcuding ECan) to SZ3 and attack Norway with 1 ARM, 1 ART, 2 INF, 2 FIG (and a BOM if Germany has force there, otherwise SBR or stragler naval attack).

    Place new Navy in SZ3 and land FIGs on AC.  2 INF to UK.

    On US1, US sends 1 FIG, 1 BOM to UK (possibly doing a stragler navy strike as well if needed).  If Germany has more than 1 TRN in range, 2 TRNs of units to UK.
    On USSR2, the Russia SUB goes to SZ6 to block a combined naval/air strike on my SZ3 fleet.

    Thanks Switch ! I’m using your strat against my next opponent in our private little tournament. I’m pretty confident he will just put a carrier in Baltic and do “standard” attacks with G1. If Germany doesnt send the rest of his fleet to Gib… is it safe to just buy transports with USA (4x4) ? I’m guessing yes with my BB and Panama Destroyer coming as reserves.


  • If you bring the 2 Pacific capital ships along, yes.

    Otehrwise, I would want at least another DST to shield my TRNs that are going to be in or near SZ8 doing the run back and forth from North america to UK.  The TRNs on the Europe side of UK will be protected by the UK navy.


  • Basically, I think Amon Sul’s point is a pretty damn good one.

    "Move existing fleet (inlcuding ECan) to SZ3 and attack Norway with 1 ARM, 1 ART, 2 INF, 2 FIG (and a BOM if Germany has force there, otherwise SBR or stragler naval attack).

    Place new Navy in SZ3 and land FIGs on AC.  2 INF to UK."

    So let’s say the Germans landed 4 fighters in W. Europe, bomber and fighter in Libya.  Now Germany threatens 2 inf 1 tank AA gun (remember the UK fighters are on the UK carrier) with 1 inf, 1 tank, 4 fighters, and a bomber.  I know Amon Sul said he landed two fighters there, but I’m not Amon Sul.

    So the US sends destr two transports to UK?  Lands fighter and bomber?  Fine, Germany hoses the US fleet and trades 1 fighter for a destroyer and two transports.  German fighters are valuable, but 10 IPC for 28 is pretty good, especially since with a KGF, US MUST rebuild the transports.

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