• “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.  The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is far worse.  The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
    John Stewart Mill


  • Its not a tumor.


  • On government

    “All I think is that it’s stupid”
        Dave Barry


  • Another sailor buddy of mine:

    “I f**kin’ hate Green Day.  I think Green Day, Blink 182, and Sum 41 should all be duck taped together and shot into the sun.”

    :lol: I laughed my a** off the first time I heard that one!  :lol:


  • dude, that is awesome!!!


  • “The greatest argument against Democracy is five minutes with the average voter. Democracy is the worst system of government, except all of the others”

    • Winston Churchill (courtesy of The West Wing)

  • @Yanny:

    “The greatest argument against Democracy is five minutes with the average voter. Democracy is the worst system of government, except all of the others”

    Add to that

    “A person is smart, people are dumb”  from Men in Black

    or my father’s version…
    “The masses are asses”


  • Yanny, at least part of that line you attributed to Churchill was original to Will Rogers; to quote from him, “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for every other.” Don’t know about the first part…


  • I’m getting my information from the TV show The West Wing, so I can’t vouch for it independently.


  • @Yanny:

    I’m getting my information from the TV show The West Wing

    That was your first mistake :-P


  • im sure the show is far from the truth, but it is amusing, but everytime i see that show i see apocolipse now, its weird.
    which brings me to my next favorte qoute

    “Saigon, sh*t, im still only in Saigon!”


  • Major K- that’s from Apocalypse Now.

    One of my favorites:

    “If the General won’t lead the Army perhaps he would allow me to BORROW it…”

    and:

    “… I almost feel as if I could make myself dicatator if that would please me but it would not
    -admirable self denial!!!”


  • “If you can;t get them to salute when they should salute, and wear the clothes you tell them to wear, how are you going to get them to die for their country?”  Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

    “I don;t mind being called tough, since I find in this racket it’s the tough guys who lead the survivors”  Colonel Curtis LeMay

    “Sir, my altitude is 7,250 feet above sea level– far, far above that of West Point or Annapolis”  USAFA Altimeter Check


  • “Sir, my altitude is 7,250 feet above sea level– far, far above that of West Point or Annapolis”  USAFA Altimeter Check

    F*ck the Air Force!  :mrgreen: bunch of sissies next to the Army or Marines.  :evil:

    I got an appointment to the Air Force Academy, from my Congressman (Scott Garret: R, NJ). I told the SOB specifically, in EVERY form I filled out for the application, as well as in person to the review panel at the interview that I had NO interest in going to either the Air Force Academy, or Annapolis, that I was only interested in West Point, and he appoints me to the Air Force Academy!  :x
    haha, luckily by that point, I had already decided against going to a military academy anyway. Stupid Scott Garret.


  • I looove chocolate.  But I can’t eat it because then I’ll get fat.  But it’s SOoooooo good!


  • @Janus1:

    “Sir, my altitude is 7,250 feet above sea level– far, far above that of West Point or Annapolis”  USAFA Altimeter Check

    F*ck the Air Force!  :mrgreen: bunch of sissies next to the Army or Marines.  :evil:

    I got an appointment to the Air Force Academy, from my Congressman (Scott Garret: R, NJ). I told the SOB specifically, in EVERY form I filled out for the application, as well as in person to the review panel at the interview that I had NO interest in going to either the Air Force Academy, or Annapolis, that I was only interested in West Point, and he appoints me to the Air Force Academy!  :x
    haha, luckily by that point, I had already decided against going to a military academy anyway. Stupid Scott Garret.

    Um you DO know that most Marine officers come from Annapolis, right? (or should I say “Canoe U”)  Executive Order 9877 (still in effect) has the Marines as a semi-autonomous branch of the Navy.  That is the reason why the highest rank possible in the Marines is 4-stars, and why we went more than 50 years before having a Marine Chief of Staff (another tradition Bush toasted).


  • From my childhood hero, James Lovell. (Whom I had the pleasure of meeting in Saudi Arabia in 1979/1980).

    Lovell said, “The vast loneliness is awe-inspiring and it makes you realize just what you have back there on Earth.”

    Taken from……

    The Apollo 8 Christmas Eve Broadcast


    Apollo 8, the first manned mission to the Moon, entered lunar orbit on Christmas Eve, December 24, 1968. That evening, the astronauts; Commander Frank Borman, Command Module Pilot Jim Lovell, and Lunar Module Pilot William Anders did a live television broadcast from lunar orbit, in which they showed pictures of the Earth and Moon seen from Apollo 8. Lovell said, “The vast loneliness is awe-inspiring and it makes you realize just what you have back there on Earth.” They ended the broadcast with the crew taking turns reading from the book of Genesis.

    William Anders:

    “For all the people on Earth the crew of Apollo 8 has a message we would like to send you”.

    “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
    And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.”

    Jim Lovell:

    “And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
    And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.”

    Frank Borman:

    “And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
    And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.”

    Borman then added, “And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas, and God bless all of you - all of you on the good Earth.”


  • (Not verbatim)

    “Why so sad guys?  Whatsa matter, didn’t everybody get laid by a beautiful MP last night?”  :lol:


  • Um you DO know that most Marine officers come from Annapolis, right? (or should I say “Canoe U”)  Executive Order 9877 (still in effect) has the Marines as a semi-autonomous branch of the Navy.  That is the reason why the highest rank possible in the Marines is 4-stars, and why we went more than 50 years before having a Marine Chief of Staff (another tradition Bush toasted).

    haha, yes, im well aware of that. but i had no interest in going to annapolis. part of my interest was focused on West Point itself (which i suppose contributed to my turning away from that path eventually). but another reason is that while all military academies have a heavy focus on math and sciences (i believe you graduate with a B.S. no matter what you major in), annapolis and Air Force academy are even more focused on math and science then West Point (im not a math/science fan). besides, if i was going to be a marine, i would enlist.  :mrgreen:


  • @Janus1:

    haha, yes, im well aware of that. but i had no interest in going to annapolis. part of my interest was focused on West Point itself (which i suppose contributed to my turning away from that path eventually). but another reason is that while all military academies have a heavy focus on math and sciences (i believe you graduate with a B.S. no matter what you major in), annapolis and Air Force academy are even more focused on math and science then West Point (im not a math/science fan). besides, if i was going to be a marine, i would enlist.  :mrgreen:

    Ah OK.  Yes, like 95% of USAFA grads end up with a BS in Engineering of one form or another.  I was one of those very rare admissions:  one of the 5% in a non-engineering field (admitted as a Social Sciences Major).  There were not that many of us, and after I trashed my knees in Jack’s Valley, there was one fewer.

    I had the option of Annapolis or USAFA.  Navy wanted me to do a year of prep-school first since my HS was weak on hard science.  Also turned down the scholarship to Stanford when I accepted the USAFA appointment.  Always wonder what would have happened had I been somewhere else and not ripped up my knees on the Assault Course…

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