13L G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs hobo (Allies +12) take 2

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            4 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Manchuria
                Chinese attack with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry
                Japanese defend with 3 artilleries and 1 factory_minor
                Chinese win, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 4 artilleries and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 artilleries
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Trigger Chinese Destroy Factories Manchuria Chinese: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Chinese in Manchuria

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe

Place Units - Chinese
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Shensi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 29 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - British
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia

[hobo]

ok gave you higher end of 4 fighters knowing your luck  :lol:

scramble orders for italy

[hobo]

actually slight change to uk’s builds.  take out 1 infantry and add 1 artillery, so 3 ipcs left instead of four.  I will edit later.

[wheatbeer]

@hobo:

ok gave you higher end of 4 fighters knowing your luck  :lol:

What calculator are you using? Inputting the proper OOL in dskelly (Allies EDCFOB / Axis SEOCFP) does not return that result.

4 is the lower end of average unless dskelly is wrong.

@hobo:

scramble orders for italy

no scramble

[hobo]

I use my own methods when calculating leftovers and not win %.

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia

Combat - British
            Battle in Persia
                British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                1 artillery owned by the British retreated to Eastern Persia
                Japanese win with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship
                British win with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            2 artilleries moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers and 4 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia
            1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan

Place Units - British
            1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 21 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Normandy Bordeaux: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 36 to 35
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[wheatbeer]

I’m not sure what how I would use the win % since that says nothing about survivors.

I am using the graph which displays the probability of each outcome ranging from no casualties to complete annihilation (can be displayed as a pie or bar graph … pie’s easier to read for me).

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Caucasus
                  Italians take Caucasus from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  Italians take Northwest Persia from Russians
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Western Germany
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber in Western Germany, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Germany, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Western Germany
                Italians win, taking Western Germany from Americans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
            4 fighters moved from France to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 19 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 107
    Russians : 16 / 0
    Japanese : 13 / 10
    Americans : 79 / 109
    Chinese : 23 / 29
    British : 31 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 18 / 26
    Italians : 15 / 19
    ANZAC : 14 / 24
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 3 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Hainan to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Formosa

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Formosa

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New South Wales to Shan State
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Szechwan to Volgograd
            1 fighter moved from Western Australia to 38 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            3 transports placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 15 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

Combat - French
            Battle in Egypt
                French attack with 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 3 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber; Germans defend with 1 artillery; Italians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 5 fighters, 1 harbour, 13 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Italians win with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 bombers, 6 fighters, 13 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[JDOW]

@wheatbeer:

I’m not sure what how I would use the win % since that says nothing about survivors.

I am using the graph which displays the probability of each outcome ranging from no casualties to complete annihilation (can be displayed as a pie or bar graph … pie’s easier to read for me).

Can you explain how you get these charts? Is this a function of the battle calculator in tripleA?
Cheers!

[wheatbeer]

JDOW,
If you have any questions the following doesn’t address, shoot me a PM.

1. Go to http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html
2. Switch the rule set box at the top from 50th Anniversary Rules to 1940 A3 Rules (combat values identical to Rev 2)
3. Select the correct Battle Type (land, sea, amphibious assault)
4. Type the number of each unit present, you can leave blank for zero
5. Above the units types is row labelled Order of Loss. The bolded letter within each unit type is the code you need to enter (for example: e = carrier). Left to right equals first to last.
6. Click Run Sim in the bottom left (this will give you some basic win % and IPC info)
7. For expected casualties, click the Pie button after you click Run Sim. This will show the probability of each outcome (i.e. the % chance to survive with so many of each unit type), 1 graph for attackers and 1 graph for defenders.

Notes:
If you leave OOL blank dskelly will pick a default OOL. Their default OOL for sea battles is not the same as max defense or max offense, so in most cases where major fleets collide, I recommend manually entering OOL.
I believe that dskelly automatically damages capitol ships first no matter what OOL you enter, so the OOL for capitol ships simply tells the program at what point you would like them to sink.
If you check the must take territory box, it will assume that you save your last land unit as your last casualty.
These values are only accurate for battles fought to the death.

[wheatbeer]

I lost 16 more planes than I expected, and survived with a single tank in Stalingrad (curious what your system estimates?)

Need OOL for NITA, German strafe going poor as well at 2 opening hits :lol:

[wheatbeer]

There’s a chance I’ll risk round 2 if you want to give that OOL too.

[hobo]

default but kill americans first

[hobo]

hey, you won with the tank!  that’s all that might matter!  :lol:

[wheatbeer]

So, UK aa first, Americans, remaining UK?

[wheatbeer]

For expediency, I am going to go with that. If I’m wrong you can always swap the aa gun back.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 7 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_upgrade, 2 fighters and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour, 5 artilleries, 10 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Northern Italy
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Denmark to Northern Italy
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            2 bombers moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Samara
                  Germans take Samara from Russians
            1 armour moved from Samara to Volgograd
            17 armour, 22 artilleries, 5 fighters, 21 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 8 tactical_bombers moved from Tambov to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
                  Germans take Vologda from Russians

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 18 armour, 22 artilleries, 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 21 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 11 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 2 fighters; Russians defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 68 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys; Americans defend with 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
                    AA fire in Volgograd :  2/9 hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 22 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 21 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 11 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 2 :  31/99 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 8 fighters, 68 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 2 :  33/95 hits
                    28 infantry owned by the Russians , 21 infantry owned by the Germans , 12 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 3 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 22 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 8 mech_infantrys and 11 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 3 :  26/66 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 8 fighters, 40 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 3 :  24/67 hits
                    26 infantry owned by the Russians , 16 artilleries owned by the Germans and 8 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 6 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 11 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 4 :  18/42 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 8 fighters, 14 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 4 :  16/41 hits
                    14 infantry owned by the Russians , 10 armour owned by the Germans , 4 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 6 artilleries owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 11 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 5 :  13/26 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 8 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 5 :  15/23 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians , 3 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans , 7 armour owned by the Germans , 9 artilleries owned by the Russians , 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians , 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 5 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers and 8 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 6 :  5/11 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 8 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 6 :  6/10 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans , 6 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers and 2 tactical_bombers in Volgograd, round 7 :  4/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 5 fighters in Volgograd, round 7 :  4/5 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans , 2 bombers owned by the Germans , 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in Volgograd
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Volgograd, round 8 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Volgograd, round 8 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Volgograd, round 9 :  1/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Volgograd, round 9 :  0/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in Volgograd
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -143
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Germans: 17 armour, 22 artilleries, 2 bombers, 7 fighters, 21 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 11 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for Russians: 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 68 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Americans: 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 12 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 12 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys in Northern Italy, round 2 :  2/23 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 :  1/12 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 aaGun owned by the British lost in Northern Italy
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 11 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys in Northern Italy, round 3 :  5/22 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 3 :  4/11 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans , 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
                7 infantry owned by the Germans , 1 armour owned by the Germans , 5 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans and 5 artilleries owned by the Germans retreated to Southern Italy
                Americans win with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod

Place Units - Germans
            Units in Western Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
            1 factory_upgrade placed in Western Germany
            7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 fighters placed in Ukraine
            Germans undo move 1.
            3 artilleries placed in Western Germany
            Units in Western Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
            1 factory_upgrade placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 56 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 55 / 81
    Russians : 12 / 0
    Japanese : 12 / 10
    Americans : 79 / 109
    Chinese : 23 / 29
    British : 31 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 18 / 26
    Italians : 15 / 19
    ANZAC : 15 / 28
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0