L13 G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs Jeff28 (Allies +13) match 3, the tiebreakening

[wheatbeer]

I’ve never had to think about defending Poland before  :| … really stupid of me.  Could easily have won the game this turn if I’d thought about Poland.

[wheatbeer]

Maybe, I’ll see if I can salvage this … but god I feel stupid.

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :12

Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Northern Italy
            3 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland

Combat - British
            Battle in Poland
            Battle in Northern Italy
                British attack with 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northern Italy, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy
                British win, taking Poland from Germans, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            4 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 4 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Norway
            1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Norway to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

Territory Summary for British :

Sumatra : 2 infantry
    Belgian Congo : 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    Gibraltar : 1 harbour
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 1 airfield
    Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 armour
    Greater Southern Germany : 1 flag
    Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Norway : 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry
    Denmark : 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    80 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    113 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 5 transports
    93 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Eire : 1 flag
    92 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    72 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    114 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag
    Finland : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 32 / 67
    Russians : 6 / 0
    Japanese : 31 / 21
    Americans : 68 / 93
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 36 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 0
    Italians : 25 / 35
    ANZAC : 17 / 28
    French : 10 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Jeff28]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.5

Game History

Round :12

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 armour and 1 fighter placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 armour and 1 fighter

Territory Summary for UK_Pacific :

India : 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Malaya : 1 harbour
    Kwangtung : 1 harbour
    Sumatra : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 32 / 67
    Russians : 6 / 0
    Japanese : 31 / 21
    Americans : 68 / 93
    Chinese : 23 / 23
    British : 36 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 22
    Italians : 25 / 35
    ANZAC : 17 / 28
    French : 10 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

My NCM was totally mindless since I thought I’d won already …. sigh.

[Jeff28]

Yeah I think I could have gotten one of the three VC maybe with everything I had and the american bombers.

Maybe not.

–Jeff

[wheatbeer]

Bombers couldn’t reach Novgorod or Poland since I SBR’d.

If I had shifted units from Berlin to Poland, I could keep the odds to a fraction of 1%.

[wheatbeer]

I’m depressed right now, so I’ll look at this later.

[Jeff28]

Maybe suicide american bombers into novo then brit could take? Or planes to poland?

[wheatbeer]

The American strategic bombers couldn’t attack Novgorod or Poland since they would have no possible landing zone.

[wheatbeer]

Less impossible than I though since the US could suicide all planes into Berlin OR the non-strats into Poland.

None-the-less shifting some units to Poland makes the odds that the Allies reclaim any VC quite low.  If both the US and UK got upper-percentile results, it could happen.

This is probably what the map would have looked like if Poland’s status as a VC had been in my consciousness sometime between Germany’s CM and NCM.

[wheatbeer]

I don’t expect you to go off that map, I’m just posting it to illustrate.

This above doesn’t alter anything other than German NCM.

[wheatbeer]

Would you be interested in attempting to crack any of the VCs with that new NCM with the stakes below:

1. You get three separate sets of US12-UK13 based on my adjusted NCM to attempt to take a European VC.

2. If you can’t take control of a European VC, then we call this match a draw and (optional) we can start a new match now or at a later date.

3. If you do take control of a European VC, then I will concede the game.

–-

I’ll respect your call either way. You don’t risk defeat, and you have three chances to win (one for each VC that the Allies could possibly capture).

I would feel much better if I lose (or fail to win) for a reason other than my own idiocy. But given that this is not a face-to-face game, I won’t begrudge you if you’re not interested.

[wheatbeer]

*US12-UK12 (not 13  :lol:)

[Jeff28]

The main problem I have is that I made an almost equal dumbass error in unloading the American units in Norway.

The one destroyer in the sea zone preventing an entire monster fleet from loading is a stupid and unrealistic rule.

If I had just reinforced W. Germ more to prevent Italy from taking W. Germ stopping the German mechs into Denmark and left the rest on the boats I’d be a lot better off.

[wheatbeer]

If you want to reboot the game to US11 (when you made that error) do anything you want differently from then onward, I believe I can still stop you from denying the Axis victory on G13.

If you can stop me from winning on G13, then I’ll concede (and happily so because I’ll have been beaten by superior strategy).

If you can’t stop me from winning on G13, then you can choose to call it a draw or you can choose to concede, whichever you feel is more appropriate.

[wheatbeer]

(Alternatively, you can ask me to concede now, and we can play it out from US11 purely for the sake of fun and curiosity)

[wheatbeer]

(There’s a post at the end of the previous page)

[Jeff28]

I will stipulate that you would have won without the Poland error.

However you did make the error. So I’d just like to go forward with this game as is as I’m trying to get in the top 2 for the league so I can be in the final.

If you want me to play an alternate game for fun from G11 on that’d be fine.

Let me know.

I imagine we are pretty closely matched playing Global and I enjoy playing with you. If we played a hundred games you’d probably win 60.

–Jeff

[wheatbeer]

I need to decide if it’s possible to recover.  I did a totally slapdash job with all my CM and NCM (not even reclaiming Greater Southern Germany or defending Northern Italy or Western Germany at all  :lol:) because I thought it didn’t matter.