• '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I wouldnt call it a bonus destroyer.

    It’s slightly harder to get the Italians because the chance of getting diced is higher.  You have to split up your attackers to get both sides, which means less chance of consolidating hits where you want them.  It is not, by any means, impossible to do dmg to the Italians, and you might even luck out and get better results than otherwise.

    However, if you go that route, I think you are handing Japan and easy victory in Calcutta.  I’d rather pull out and make it almost impossible for Japan to get india before America gets in the game.


  • Cmdr Jen, I was thinking something along thoes lines, moving the fleet towards India by UK3 or 4. I was also thinking that as I passed back through the red sea taking out Italian east Africa and Iraq around UK2.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    It takes a minimum of two rounds to get from SZ 98 to SZ 39.  However, there is no reason not to have a layover in SZ 80 to play with Iraq/C. Persia.  I like to bring an Infantry from Malta, Armor from Alexandria (or Egypt forget which one it is in) and land them in C. Persia on England 1.


  • Im actually looking at moving the transport out of sz39 with 1infantry and 1 arty and landing them in C. Persia, then moving the fleet from sz98 to sz76 transporting 1infantry and 1 tank from egypt and alexandria respectivly, along with the cruiser from sz39 and taking out the Italians in east Africa all together on UK1. Then assaulting Iraq on UK2 with the troops in C Persia with 1 transport moving an additional infantry and tank into Iraq and having 2 cruiser shots.

    From there having the forces that took Iraq move towards Egypt to reinforce or liberate it depending on the situation while the 2 cruisers move back to sz39 along with the 2 aircraft carriers and battleship that should already be there by UK2 to counter attack the Japanese.

    The only problem is not being able to grab up alot of the DEI, atleast not until UK2, dont know how damaging this would be.


  • @Cmdr:

    I wouldnt call it a bonus destroyer.

    It’s slightly harder to get the Italians because the chance of getting diced is higher.  You have to split up your attackers to get both sides, which means less chance of consolidating hits where you want them.  It is not, by any means, impossible to do dmg to the Italians, and you might even luck out and get better results than otherwise.

    However, if you go that route, I think you are handing Japan and easy victory in Calcutta.  I’d rather pull out and make it almost impossible for Japan to get india before America gets in the game.

    Say what? You don’t have to split up anything.


  • Oops, didn’t see page 2 I guess. mantlefan is right. Taranto is exactly the same. ~65% odds in favor of the UK if there are two German fighters on S. Italy. Lose everything, and you still bloody Italy and Germany badly. Totally worth it.


  • Whhy do so many people argue the cruiser in sz91 survives? In our games, Germany kills the cruiser 9 out of 10 times


  • @mantlefan:

    @Admiral:

    Whhy do so many people argue the cruiser in sz91 survives? In our games, Germany kills the cruiser 9 out of 10 times

    How many games of Alpha +3 have you played?

    Germany is stretched out more in Alpha +.3

    Getting 91 and Normandy is a tall order.

    Even if the cruiser dies, a lone ftr stands a pretty good chance against the DD and trn. I’d still try that every time.

    Maybe he’s sending both subs against it every time. Which of course means the other naval battles are stretched thinner, or he’s just letting UK start with more ships. UK will also probably get a chance to hit those subs with a surviving destroyer.

    I agree on sending even a single fighter to SZ 96. It’s a 50% chance to take out both ships. That’s a very good risk/reward ratio, especially if Germany lost some extra planes on G1 and parked others on S. Italy.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @Admiral:

    Whhy do so many people argue the cruiser in sz91 survives? In our games, Germany kills the cruiser 9 out of 10 times

    I agree in spirit, it does seem if Germany attacks the cruiser with a submarine it usually goes down (yes I realize it’s a 50/50 battle, understood on a logical standing, on an emotional one it feels like it usually goes to Germany) however, Mantlefan is right, Germany is pretty stretched now.

    I do bid 6 for a submarine, just so I can have that 50/50 shot, but when there is no bid (friendly game) I just give up that battle so I can sink both British transports, get W. France, France and Yugoslavia and get my 70 IPCs.


  • It does appear more and more now that the British curiser in sz91 will survive to UK1, so the question becomes, if it is going to be there on UK1 how do you use it? Or more specifically how does it help the British naval position in the eastern Med?

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