L22 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL

  • 2023

    @trulpen said in L22 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

    The credentials are empty. Did you save it as local mode?

    Night be as there was no combat. Sorry für that.


  • Seems to work.


  • I assume that you don’t want to scramble nor intercept. No problem to roll those battles afterwards if you were of a different opinion.

    L22 #1 trulpen vs myygames (+45) OOB LL scramble.tsvg


  • Horrible, horrible aa…

    G3 L22 #1 trulpen vs myygames (+45) OOB LL.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 unit repaired.
    
           1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
    
           2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
    
           1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
           1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Air Battle in United Kingdom
    
               Germans attacks with 4 units heading to United Kingdom
    
               Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
    
           Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
    
                   British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
               1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
    
                   British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
               1 bomber killed by AA
    
               Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
    
               Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 6 damage total. 
    
           Battle in Scotland
    
           Battle in Eire
    
           Cleaning up after air battles
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           3 armour moved from Bulgaria to Romania
    
           2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
    
           6 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
    
           3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
    
           1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
    
           1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
    
           1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
    
           3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
    
           Germans undo move 2.
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
    
           3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
    
           Germans undo move 3.
    
           3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    British AA : 1,50


  • Wait, need to change the positioning. Reposting.


  • Realized Russia may DOW on Germany, so need to protect Slovakia Hungary as well.


  • This should be better.

    G3 L22 #1 trulpen vs myygames (+45) OOB LL.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3

       Purchase Units - Germans
    
           Germans buy 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
    
    
       Combat Move - Germans
    
           1 unit repaired.
    
           1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Scotland
    
           1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
    
           2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
    
           1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
           1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
    
    
       Combat - Germans
    
           Air Battle in United Kingdom
    
               Germans attacks with 4 units heading to United Kingdom
    
               Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
    
           Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
    
                   British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
    
               1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
    
                   British roll AA dice in United Kingdom : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    
               1 bomber killed by AA
    
               Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
    
               Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 6 damage total. 
    
           Battle in Scotland
    
           Battle in Eire
    
           Cleaning up after air battles
    
    
    
       Non Combat Move - Germans
    
           3 armour moved from Bulgaria to Romania
    
           6 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
    
           2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
    
           1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
    
           1 fighter moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
    
           1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
    
           1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
    
           1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
    
           1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
    
           3 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
    
           1 aaGun moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
    
           3 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary
    
           1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
    
           3 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
    
           1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
    
           1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
    
           3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
    
    
    
       Place Units - Germans
    
           1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
    
           1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
    
           3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
    
    
    
       Turn Complete - Germans
    
           Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    
           Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs
    
           Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    British AA : 1,50


  • I was actually going for Gibraltar pretty hard, but then hesitated and reconsidered during Germany. Didn’t want to ask about redoing Italy, so it is what it is.


  • I was actually about to buy 2 ac, 1 des and sacrifice the present fleet in z91 countering next turn. Felt it became rather expensive and put the idea on hold. Barbarossa is more important than Gibraltar.


  • Will be able to do some economic damage on UK meanwhile, although losing a tac and a sb during SBR hurt like hell.


  • Might add that even if you don’t DOW on Germany with Russia, the german sub will prevent the NO. The rule says only “axis warship” so Germany doesn’t have to be at war with Russia.

  • 2023

    @trulpen said in L22 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

    Might add that even if you don’t DOW on Germany with Russia, the german sub will prevent the NO. The rule says only “axis warship” so Germany doesn’t have to be at war with Russia.

    I am clear on that and will declare with russia to prevent trippleA errors

  • 2023


  • Seems 1 tr slipped along with the fleet to z42. I’ll move it back. I mean, no point in having an empty tr down there at this point. And not in danger in z36 either.

  • 2023

    @trulpen said in L22 #1 trulpen (X) vs Myygames (A+45) OOB LL:

    Seems 1 tr slipped along with the fleet to z42. I’ll move it back. I mean, no point in having an empty tr down there at this point. And not in danger in z36 either.

    Yes, i saw that. Actually i was wondering what that was Good for. Nevertheless i also Took that into consideration with my moves. Where die you intend to move it to?

  • 2023

    @trulpen

    In general I am open to editing, and I am not picky on that. But I think edist should follow some guidelines. I had to work these out in a different game, so here to share my thoughts:

    1. Edits should aim to correct klick-errors, caused by wrong or too fast klicking in trippleA
    2. Edits must be accepted by both players
    3. Edist should be mentioned in the post, except if its only a NCM in the same turn
    4. Edits never should give a tactical advantage to a player. Especially no dice should be rolled that are relevant for the edit. The turn sequence must be kept
    5. Edits should be made in a timely manner. Best case in the same turn before the post. Latest before the next players turn

    Let me know what you think!


  • I didn’t see that until now, unfortunately.

    I just wanted to keep the tr in z36, as I always do.

    The guideline is good, although I think that correcting apparent slips should be able to be made.

    Edits being accepted by both players is good. So the question regarding this situation is if you accept that edit?

    Changed the air casualty in Burma by edit, but then changed my mind and changed back.

    J3 L22 #1 trulpen vs myygames (+45) OOB LL.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
                  Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
                  Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
            1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Korea
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Korea
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
            1 armour moved from Jehol to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Burma
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Java
            Battle in Borneo
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Malaya
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
                Japanese win, taking Java from Dutch, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
                Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 artillery and 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Burma
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll AA dice in Burma : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 aaGun owned by the British lost in Burma
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
                Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
            Battle in Korea
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Korea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Korea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Korea
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Burma: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Burma: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
            1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Chahar to Japan
            2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to Japan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            2 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            EDIT: 1 aaGun and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            EDIT: 1 infantry moved from Java to Celebes
            2 bombers moved from Philippines to Kwangsi
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Jehol
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 35 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 infantry placed in Shantung
            1 infantry placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0,67
    Americans regular : 0,33
    Japanese regular : -0,67
    British AA : 0,50
    UK_Pacific regular : -1,67
    Russians regular : 0,67
    
  • 2023

    @trulpen I am actually thinking that editing a japanese transport at the beginning of a japanese move is way late, and my feeling says that this would stretch out too much goodwill.

    I understand now that you did not intend to move the TR there, but I spent some time thinking on what that would be your intentions of that. Also, as I said I was considering the transports that you have available for attacks in J3 in my moves.

    So, Sir, I hope you understand my position and I kindly ask you to undo that edit, considering it started empty in SZ42 and adjust your NCM accordingly.


  • Ok, I fix it.


  • The extra tr in z42 then instead went to z37 and loaded 1 inf from Siam to attack Malaya. Shan state would have to be left alone, so 1 IPC less for Japan.

    J3 edit L22 #1 trulpen vs myygames (+45) OOB LL.tsvg

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