BM3 Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies+11)

[ksmckay]

I thought the loop hole for the indies and DNG is that they werent considered friendly neutrals.

[ksmckay]

But either way its not a big deal to me, just people have been doing it to me so I included it. I am fine with disallowing it if I can swap it with an inf. I wouldnt have taken it to Java otherwise.

[ksmckay]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Russians round 3

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Russians
        Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
            Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in 92 Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 submarine
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
                Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Russia
        1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 15 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        9 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia

    Place Units - Russians
        3 infantry placed in Volgograd
        2 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Russia
        Russians undo move 2.
        Russians undo move 1.
        2 infantry placed in Russia
        8 infantry placed in Russia
        Russians undo move 2.
        Russians undo move 1.
        2 infantry placed in Volgograd
        2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from South Australia: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Dutch New Guinea: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Queensland: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Dutch New Guinea: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to South Australia: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians : -0.33

Savegame

[ksmckay]

posted an edit but I still cant find anything that shows its not allowed. Friendly neutrals I agree with (though people do that to me as well) but the dutch territories are different (which is why air is allowed to land in them, unlike friendly neutrals).

[Adam514]

@ksmckay Can’t take control of a territory with a unit with no combat value, that’s the general rule.

[ksmckay]

Im fine with that and it makes sense, its just not in the rules. Feels like a loophole so I am fine unofficially closing it. But they completely rewrote the rules for the second edition, and then came out with an errata and according to those rules/errata nothing excludes taking guardianship of the dutch territories with an AAA gun and it seems to be a typical play that people use so was just hoping for an official rule/ruling.

Hopefully you are ok with the edit.

[Adam514]

@ksmckay said in BM3 Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies+11):

100% its not in the latest rulebook. I thought they covered most things with the second edition. Havent seen a faq since that one was released.

If that is true, what about the NOs that include land unit? For example the US presence in North Africa?

I thought this was true as well and so combed through the rulebook and nothing in the rulebook says thats the case, I did a search on forum but didnt see anything but I didnt look super carefully in forum. A bunch of people have been doing it to me so I started doing it since I couldnt find a rule opposing it.

AAs count as a land unit for NOs that require a land unit. In China however, a Japanese AA gun does not stop guerrilla spawn.

I haven’t seen someone do that to me in the longest time. I remember people asking about this rule as well, and the ruling was you can’t take control of a territory with a unit that has no combat value.

Your edit is fine of course.

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Politics - Japanese
        Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
        Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
              Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
              Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Suiyuyan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
              Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
        1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Java
        1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
        1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangtung
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Shan State
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 45 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Malaya
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kwangtung, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
        Battle in Suiyuyan
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
            Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Philippines
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Philippines, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
            Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Sumatra
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Sumatra, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Sumatra
            Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in French Indo China
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in French Indo China, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in French Indo China
            Japanese win, taking French Indo China from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
        1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
        1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        2 fighters moved from Anhwe to Japan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
        1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 bomber moved from Philippines to Kwangsi
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 artillery moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Shantung to Hunan
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter placed in Japan
        1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangsi: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kiangsi: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : -0.33
Americans : -0.67
Chinese : -0.33
UK_Pacific : -0.67
Japanese : 0.17

Savegame

[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Americans
        Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
        Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States

    Combat Move - Americans
        Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttachment attached to Americans
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Midway to 32 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Marshall Islands
        Battle in 44 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 44 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
            Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
        Battle in Caroline Islands
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                AA fire in Caroline Islands : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands
            Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
        Battle in Morocco
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry
            Neutral_Axis defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Morocco, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Axis roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Morocco
            Americans win, taking Morocco from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        EDIT: 1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Morocco
        2 fighters moved from Midway to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Midway to Eastern United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 infantry placed in Central United States
        2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
        1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        Americans undo move 3.
        1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Shensi
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi
            Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Shensi to Tsinghai

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Tsinghai

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 4 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
        1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 75 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to Burma

    Combat - British
        Battle in Kenya
        Battle in Iraq
            British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Iraq, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 3 : 4/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Neutral_Axis roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
            British win, taking Kenya from Italians, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
        Battle in Burma
            British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma
                British roll dice for 1 artillery in Burma, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
            British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
        1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Persia
        5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Morocco
        2 infantry moved from India to West India
        1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Morocco
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Morocco
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia

    Place Units - British
        1 transport placed in 106 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 artilleries and 5 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : -1.33
Americans : -0.67
AA fire in Caroline Islands : : -0.33
Chinese : 0.17
Neutral_Axis : 1.00
Japanese : -0.67

Savegame

[ksmckay]

if Iraq had gone better I wouldnt have complained but pretty great start for the axis through 3 rounds - certainly no gifts for the allies defensively. I have been trying something new with Z92 stack and UK but not sure I like how it turned out. Didnt want to waste 2 dds blocking but probably end up doing that (or more) anyway.

[Adam514]

Sz92 stack is great. Blocking with DDs probably and keeping Gib probably comes out to the same in the end. Just need to be sure you actually take Gib back.

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 marine moved from Cyprus to 99 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        2 marines moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
              Italians take Algeria from Neutral_Axis
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
        1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux

    Place Units - Italians
        1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
        3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[ksmckay]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Marianas

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Alexandria from Italians to British
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
        1 artillery moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 marine moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to South Australia
        1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

    Combat Move - French
        1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Adam514]

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 artillery, 3 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        6 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone

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[Adam514]

Scramble sz110?

[ksmckay]

No thanks

[Adam514]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 artillery, 3 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
              Germans take Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
              Germans take Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
        6 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
        1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Novgorod
            Germans attack with 8 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 8 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Germans roll dice for 7 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
            Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Finland
        1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Belarus
        9 armour and 14 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
        1 aaGun, 5 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
        7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Greece
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Germans
        3 bombers and 1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in France
        1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 3.
        1 infantry placed in France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -1.33
British : -0.33
Russians : -0.33

Savegame

[Adam514]

In case you didn’t know, you can’t withdraw from a battle if there are only units with no combat value left (for example, AA guns). So for example, if you attack Western Ukraine for 1 round and I chose to leave only the AA gun alive, you’ll be forced to take the territory.

I don’t like the rule personally, it makes strafing even harder to pull off, but it’s the official rule.

[ksmckay]

Yep thanks.

not sure how I had units in Nov but at least one hit…

[Adam514]

@ksmckay said in BM3 Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies+11):

Yep thanks.

not sure how I had units in Nov but at least one hit…

I did find that odd, thought you wanted to make me commit my Scandinavian troops to it.