• Basically, the Marines look to recruit 18 year old guys right out of high school who want to go and kill people and blow shit up. The Army suckers in these old drunks who can’t stay in college by offering 10,000 dollar bonuses.

    So the Corp is made up of warriors. The reason to join is to be the best damn fighter around. Very appealing to an 18 year old guy.

    Old drunks who cant make it in college join the army, cause they are all about stupid shit like job skills and college money. What kind of young guy gives a damn about that?

    As for the Navy and Air Force… Do they even carry rifles???


  • ya some of them Squids do. the RP back in my old unit did (i can’t remember the acuale abriviation stands for but he was the Chaplin’s body guard) he also played A&A… didn’t get to play him though


  • @stuka:

    Yeah, I was called Marine, Jarhead, Devildog, beer drinking a$$hole…. but I don’t ever remember being called a soldier.

    I’m on another forum that a guy claims to be a marine.  We didn’t believe him, this being one of the many reasons (called himself soldier instead of marine).


  • Just ask him if he was in 4th Battalion. the ansower will clear this up quite nicelly  :wink:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Marines can be called soldiers.  They are, after all, ground pounders who know how to swim.  But yea, I’d have flags raised too if a marine ever called himself a soldier.  Not that it’s wrong, but it’s unusual.  It’s like saying “I’m an ex-Marine.”  The only “ex-Marines” are the ones drummed out of the corps with dishonorables.  Everyone else is still a marine, just not active anymore. :P


  • Marines can be called soldiers

    Yeah,… and then the one who calls them soldiers within earshot of a Marine will get the ol’ sweep and stomp.

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    @stuka:

    Marines can be called soldiers

    Yeah,… and then the one who calls them soldiers within earshot of a Marine will get the ol’ sweep and stomp.

    an enlisted man or woman who serves in an army; “the soldiers stood at attention”

    serve as a soldier in the military

    The United States Marine Corps can be considered an army.  It’s not an air force and it’s not a navy, thus it must be an army.  Same for the National Guard.  It’s an army.  It is not THE Army.  But it is AN army.

    So technically speaking, it is correct to refer to a marine as a soldier.  And I dare any self-respecting marine (who doesn’t want to get his butt kicked by his Gunny) to “sweep n’stomp” me for calling him a soldier. :P


  • better to get my @ss kicked by a gunny then a sarg.
    good chance the gunny would be lossing rank over the issue right along with as he would be there in the middle of it too.


  • Yes, you can refer to a Marine as a soldier, but you can also refer to a mongoose as a chinchilla. When people refer to soldiers they could be referring to anything from a Delta operator to a thug with an ak74 in Africa. When people refer to a Marine, they are referring to a United States Marine.

    “Some people spend their entire lives trying to figure out if they have made a difference in the world. Marines don’t have that problem.”


  • You notice, Jen that all three people (myself, Pervata and M36) rebuking your soldier bit are MARINES  8-)

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Yea, I see it.  And I understand your position.  However, the definition for soldier fits that of a marine. :P

    Honestly, I usually call marines like “Hey, boys!  That’s OUR base you’re blowing up!  The enemy is THAT way!” (Pointing Pi Radians from where they are shooting.)


  • not exactly, Marines are sea born, or come from the sea. in modern war fair the Army has taken that job also but only in WWII and then because there wern’t enough Marines to fight the Japs and Krouts.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    Historically speaking Marines were just army men on the boats.


  • Just remember…

    The mission of the United States Air Force is:

    “Fly, Fight and WIN”

    I think we are the ONLY branch who’s purpose is to actually WIN  :-D


  • maybe so, but ours is to destroy and kill  :wink:

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I thought it was:

    “To defend the Constitution of the United States through the control and exploitation of air and space.”

    Or something similar.  I seem to remember one of their phrases including the “control and exploitation of air and space” but it might be a vision statement instead of a mission statement.


  • Basically Jen, the United States Marines are the finest warriors the planet has ever seen. Can you kill a man before he can blink when you are unarmed?

    All this hating on the Marines has lost you my vote when you run for president.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    I don’t hate marines.  Just trying to put some perspective on things.

    And, AFAIK, Spartan warriors > US Marines > US Army > US Navy > Every other army in the world > US Coast Guard > USAF > Civilians.  But I just have no respect for the Air Force when they complained to command that the coffee was too stale before it got to Iraq.

  • '18 '17 '16 '11 Moderator

    @ncscswitch:

    You ARE aware of the fact that is was run-of-the-mill USAF MECHANICS that threw back the Tet Offensive, aren;t you?

    They tried to overrun the airfields, and it was mechanics with M16s (and a few with old M1’s) that broke the assault on the airfields…

    Yes, dear.  However, when the airmen in Iraq started to complain about the coffee going stale on the trip over from the United States, even that pales in comparison to the weaniness, I sure hope you agree.  That’s about the most unsoldierly, unmilitary complaint I have ever heard.  It makes the entire branch look like a bunch of spoiled children, at least to me.

    The marines I knew were perfect gentlemen…well, as perfect as you can get when your idea of coffee is chewing on freeze dried beans because “water’s for girls.”


  • @Pervavita:

    not exactly, Marines are sea born, or come from the sea. in modern war fair the Army has taken that job also but only in WWII and then because there wern’t enough Marines to fight the Japs and Krouts.

    I may be wrong, but I don’t think the Marines engaged the Germans…or much at all.

    @M36:

    When you mention the Spartans Jen you are obviously talking about the 300. No disrespect towards the Spartans, but 300 U.S. Marines would not only have held the pass, but gone on the offensive and wiped out the Persian Army.

    Dude, if I had what Marines use I could have destroyed the Persian Army.

    But the Spartans had 2000 other warriors with them that are rarely mentioned…

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