Scrambling

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@TheOperator said in Scramble planes belonging to friendly powers?:

@Panther Literally the one under “download and rules” on this website. But i checked a paper copy from a friend, and you’re absolutely right. The wording is as you say it is. Don’t know why the digital copy is different.

Actually that one is a bit outdated. AH has released an edited version I think back in 2016. Find the latest versions here:
https://avalonhill.wizards.com/rules

If you don’t want UK to scramble during your amphibious assault, you need some Italian Bombers to raid the Airfield, and now UK have no change to repair it before Germany attack.

The rules are made this gamey way because the designer love the idea of teamwork.

Thanks again!

@Krieghund:

@Young:

Hey Leo, if the subs sitting in 91 don’t want to attack so that they can move during the non-combat phase, you only need to declare that the subs will not be participating in combat even though there is a battle in the zone they occupy.

This is incorrect.  All units in the space where a battle occurs participate in that battle, whether or not they have legitimate targets.  As a result, they may not move in noncombat movement.

Any units that sea zone that you want to move elsewhere must move during combat movement.  This is legal even if they are not moving into combat if they are moving to escape combat (even if it’s just potential combat due to a possible scramble).

Sorry Krieghund, I will PM the OP and inform him of your correction.

I had just experienced this in a game the past week. Thanks for the link Gamerman.

@Dark_Destroyer:

RAW = Says nothing about air units, just “additional units”.  RAI = Means air included.

It says nothing explicitly about sea units, either.  The type of units is unspecified, implying that any type of unit that may legally move there is allowed.

@Dark_Destroyer:

RAW = Can not move into a territory unless it’s occupied by enemy forces.  This would include sea zones that don’t scramble.

An exception for an amphibious assault where scrambling may occur is explicitly made here.

@Dark_Destroyer:

If you don’t scramble and don’t have any enemy forces and don’t amphibiously assault, moving airplanes into that sea zone is not a valid move.

True.

@Dark_Destroyer:

RAI = You can always bring air into sea zones just to cover what if’s.

No.  RAW = You can always bring units (sea and/or air) into sea zones from which you’re doing an amphibious assault, if there is a potential for the defender to scramble.

As someone who has had to read a LOT of pages of rules related to AAG40 (but WHAT a fun game!), the answer to your question is referenced here, in the AA 1940 Pacific Rules FAQ (page 4):

"Q. Let’s say I’m doing an amphibious assault and there are no enemy ships in the sea zone
around the island I’m attacking, but the island has an airbase and enemy fighters. Can I move
extra ships and planes into the sea zone along with my transports that won’t support the
assault just in case my opponent decides to scramble the fighters to defend the sea zone?
What about if there’s only an enemy sub in the sea zone? Can I move a destroyer in along with
my transport just to keep the sub from getting a free shot at it, even though the destroyer will
not participate in the assault?

A. Yes, in both cases. You may move units into a sea that presents a danger to your units during
combat movement, even though they may not actually end up fighting. Just the chance that there will
be combat is enough to allow it."

Attached is that FAQ for your review, and happy gaming!

AA 1940 Pacific Rules FAQ.pdf

@Krieghund:

There must be either a battle in the sea zone, or an amphibious assault being launched from the sea zone.

Thank you!