What is biding and is it neccasary.


  • Interesting thread.  I am assuming that you are playing either on the computer or by mail, in one on one games.  We have been running Axis and Allies Classic in a gaming class, using 5 players:  German, Japanese, Russian, British, and American.  Under those conditions, the Allies have been having a very hard time winning, or even staying in the game past the 2nd or 3rd turn.  I would hate to think how things would go if the Germans had that many additional units.  The kids playing are 6th through 10th graders, and we typically give the Axis countries to an experienced player.

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    Yeah, 5 player games aren’t as bad (in terms of bids or balancing) as a 1 on 1 game.  And with the age group you mentioned it doesn’t surprise me that the Axis are doing well.  It takes a lot of coordination between the Allies to put max pressure on Ger.

    I got hooked playing when I was about that age and 20 years later, I’m still hooked.  :-)
    Although, I’m playing more Revised now.


  • @DarthMaximus:

    Yeah, 5 player games aren’t as bad (in terms of bids or balancing) as a 1 on 1 game.  And with the age group you mentioned it doesn’t surprise me that the Axis are doing well.  It takes a lot of coordination between the Allies to put max pressure on Ger.

    I got hooked playing when I was about that age and 20 years later, I’m still hooked.  :-)
    Although, I’m playing more Revised now.

    yeah one time(recently still technilly playing the game in play by email.)  I was the US and russia pissed me off so i told him his and the uk’s income was greater than germany’s so they could screw themselves while i took Japan by myself. we thankfully won and I conquered Japan first.  :-D  especially if your doing it face to face with people my age there will be some abandoning players.

    http://gamesbyemail.com/Games/Play?434812785  still playing trying to conquer Germany. Japan was very skilled and very diffuclt for me to destroy. ( he did not do pearl so i took japan in like 4 turns.

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    Let’s not antagonize people here.

    We are not in the censorship business, and I think if you continue to post here you’ll find we let an awful lot slide.

    Since you are fairly new I’ll give you a brief history on Agent Smith.

    (short version)
    His posts had a habit of being extremely critical of other users, he would tend to go after the poster in a personal way.  We as mods recieved several complaints about him through the course of the 2-3 years he posted here. Eventually he insulted one of the Administrators (not a mod, but an Admin) and that is when he was banned.

    He did have two active acounts, initially b/c of a problem on our end with logon ID’s and he posted under a new ID, SexualHarassmentPanda (SHP) for a while.  Eventually the glitch was fixed but he kept the SHP ID.  Following his ban (SHP) he evntually recreated an account and he posted here for quite some time under his old Agent ID again and we let it slide until he eventually started problems with other users again and we received more complaints from other users.  This time he was IP banned.  Since that time we believe he posted for a while under a 3rd ID (which we again let slide) but when we received more complaints about this new ID and personal attacks then that ID and IP were banned.

    Now you may ask what does this have to do with you?

    There was an early belief that you were yet another incarnation of AgentSmith/SHP/etc.  Your initial posting style was very similar to his and through the years our ears perk up everytime someone (esp someone new) refereces a past user that they were not around for.  It just seems weird and a couple of Mods picked up on it as well as other users (who we received PMs from).
    Now you may be Agent you may not be, I really don’t care as long as quality posts are made without attacking the poster personally.

    Per the site rules if you have any problem with any user or Mod for that matter, a PM to another Mod is the way to go.  Posting like the above post is not going to help your cause.

    Normally that posted would get editted or deleted.

    Also if you want to respond send a PM, otherwise it tends to look like a poster is just searching for some Internet Drama, which again after being here for years I’m pretty good at picking out who is just looking for the Drama and who wants to contribute to the site.


  • I do not consider a 40% win rate to be bad.  I call that SOLID when only talking about 5 games.  1-4, 0-5… you would have a point.  But 2-3 or 3-2… that is SOLID play in my book.

    Also notice that Darth qualified his remarks with a may.

    So, was it 2-3 or 3-2?  Darth does not remember for certain, perhaps you can tell us which way it was…

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    Yeah, 2 or 3 of our games sort of never ended or ended under bad circumstances.

    For example, one game (I was Axis), and played a PAfr bid (23 I think), yet he left Kar under defended so I pulled the Afr troops to Cauc and took Kar as well.  He claimed foul and called me a “dice chucker”, I said he should have defended better and not to assume anything due to my bid placement.

    Another game we played was a designed test game, he wanted to see counters to a certain PE bid, or at least see how I’d counter.  I think it was 4 inf Ukr, 4 inf EE bid, I don’t really remember.  I think I probably would have lost that one.

    Also the first game we ever played was my first LL game (about 3 years ago) and needless to say I lost b/c LL is quite different from ADS, and I wasn’t prepared for some of the subtle differences.

    I think yet another game or 2 we started and never finished.  I put me at 2-3, but that is more of an assumption on my part, we probably only actually finished 2 of our games so 1-1 is probably more accurate.  I don’t know for sure though.

    I do have to credit Agent with helping to improve my game and showing me LL and the transition from ADS to LL.  Infact when he talked strat I think he helped a lot of players, but it was when he would venture into the personal attacks that would turn people off.

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