@Ragnell804 gg, I concede
1914 TGC (CP) vs. Yamato (Entente), RR, no bid
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Forgot to send, just sent it.
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - AustroHungarians 4 units repaired. 10 artilleries, 2 fighters, 20 infantry and 4 tanks moved from Piedmont to Marseilles 4 infantry moved from Tuscany to Piedmont 4 infantry moved from Venice to Piedmont 2 infantry moved from Trieste to Venice 8 infantry moved from Trieste to Serbia 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Vienna to Trieste Combat - AustroHungarians Battle in Marseilles AustroHungarians attack with 10 artilleries, 2 fighters, 20 infantry and 4 tanks French defend with 1 port; Americans defend with 16 infantry AustroHungarians roll dice for 10 artilleries, 2 fighters, 20 infantry and 4 tanks in Marseilles, round 2 : 17/36 hits, 17.00 expected hits French roll dice for 16 infantry in Marseilles, round 2 : 11/16 hits, 8.00 expected hits Units damaged: 4 tanks owned by the AustroHungarians 7 infantry owned by the AustroHungarians and 16 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Marseilles AustroHungarians win, taking Marseilles from French with 10 artilleries, 2 fighters, 13 infantry and 4 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for AustroHungarians: 7 infantry Casualties for Americans: 16 infantry Combat Move - AustroHungarians Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from SZ 16: 1 mines EDIT: Adding units owned by AustroHungarians to SZ 16: 1 mines EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - AustroHungarians 1 artillery and 11 infantry placed in Vienna Turn Complete - AustroHungarians AustroHungarians collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Germans Germans buy 20 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 units repaired. 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Romania 2 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Prussia to Poland 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Prussia 2 infantry moved from Berlin to Kiel 2 infantry moved from Kiel to Ruhr 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium Germans take Belgium from French 1 infantry moved from Ruhr to Belgium 13 infantry moved from Munich to Switzerland 10 artilleries, 3 fighters, 69 infantry and 1 tank moved from Switzerland to Burgundy 5 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 tank moved from Piedmont to Burgundy 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 tank moved from Hanover to Munich 11 infantry and 2 tanks moved from Berlin to Hanover 1 fighter moved from Romania to Ukraine Combat - Germans Battle in Burgundy Germans attack with 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 76 infantry and 2 tanks French defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 76 infantry and 2 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 38/96 hits, 39.50 expected hits French roll dice for 4 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 2 tanks owned by the Germans 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the French lost in Burgundy Germans win, taking Burgundy from French with 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 75 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 4 infantry Combat Move - Germans Place Units - Germans 20 infantry placed in Berlin Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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You talked about how you shouldn’t withdraw from Moscow and avoid the Revolution, if, among other things, the Russian army is too small.
How small is too small? How about 13 infantry, 15 artillery, and 1 fighter in Moscow, and no units anywhere else?
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@SuperbattleshipYamato all infantry
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - French French buy 1 artillery and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - French 11 artilleries and 112 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Picardy to Burgundy 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Paris to Burgundy 1 fighter moved from Lorraine to Paris 1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Constantinople Combat - French Battle in Burgundy French attack with 13 artilleries and 126 infantry Germans defend with 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 75 infantry and 2 tanks French roll dice for 13 artilleries and 126 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 52/139 hits, 50.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 75 infantry and 2 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 57/95 hits, 48.83 expected hits 52 infantry owned by the Germans and 57 infantry owned by the French lost in Burgundy Germans and French reach a stalemate . Battle score for attacker is -15 Casualties for French: 57 infantry Casualties for Germans: 52 infantry Combat Move - French Place Units - French 1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Paris Turn Complete - French French collect 25 PUs; end with 25 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 tank; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 5 units repaired. 9 artilleries, 9 infantry and 5 tanks moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria British take Bulgaria from Ottomans 4 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to SZ 20 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Ankara to Constantinople 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from SZ 20 to SZ 21 4 infantry moved from SZ 21 to Bulgaria 1 transport moved from SZ 16 to SZ 20 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to SZ 20 2 infantry moved from SZ 20 to Constantinople 1 battleship moved from SZ 16 to SZ 20 3 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Lorraine to Burgundy 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 tank moved from Persia to Sevastopol 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 tank moved from India to Persia 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 tank moved from Mesopotamia to Sevastopol Combat - British Battle in Burgundy British attack with 3 artilleries and 13 infantry; French loiter and taunt Germans defend with 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 23 infantry and 2 tanks British roll dice for 3 artilleries and 13 infantry in Burgundy, round 2 : 7/16 hits, 6.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 23 infantry and 2 tanks in Burgundy, round 2 : 23/43 hits, 22.83 expected hits 7 infantry owned by the Germans, 3 artilleries owned by the British and 13 infantry owned by the British lost in Burgundy Germans win with 15 artilleries, 3 fighters, 16 infantry and 2 tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is -30 Casualties for British: 3 artilleries and 13 infantry Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Burgundy: 7 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Burgundy: 3 artilleries and 13 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Place Units - British 2 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 tank placed in India Turn Complete - British British collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 10 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from Rome to Tuscany Italians take Tuscany from AustroHungarians 1 infantry moved from Constantinople to Bulgaria 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from SZ 17 to SZ 19 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from SZ 19 to SZ 17 Combat - Italians Combat Move - Italians Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Rome Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 12 Puchase Units - Americans Americans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 6 infantry moved from Spain to Bordeaux 1 battleship moved from SZ 7 to SZ 14 3 transports moved from SZ 14 to SZ 2 10 infantry moved from United States of America to SZ 1 10 infantry and 5 transports moved from SZ 1 to SZ 14 3 transports moved from SZ 2 to SZ 1 10 infantry moved from SZ 14 to Spain Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 8 infantry placed in United States of America Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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That dice in Burgundy… :angry:
US Turn 12 Complete 1914 Game 5.tsvg
Please answer my question:
You talked about how you shouldn’t withdraw from Moscow and avoid the Revolution, if, among other things, the Russian army is too small.
How small is too small? How about 13 infantry, 15 artillery, and 1 fighter in Moscow, and no units anywhere else? Thank you!
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@SuperbattleshipYamato said in 1914 TGC (CP) vs. Yamato (Entente), RR, no bid:
That dice in Burgundy… :angry:
US Turn 12 Complete 1914 Game 5.tsvg
Please answer my question:
You talked about how you shouldn’t withdraw from Moscow and avoid the Revolution, if, among other things, the Russian army is too small.
How small is too small? How about 13 infantry, 15 artillery, and 1 fighter in Moscow, and no units anywhere else? Thank you!
I’m having trouble understanding the question. Did I say this in the video? I’ll take a stab at the subject - the Russian player should try to bleed the CP player for as much troops and gear as possible. If they don’t fight, they leave themselves open to death by “bear hug”.
Otherwise, if the CP have fought with the Russians in one or more large, set piece battles, it is most likely in the CP interest to capture all the territories of Russia except Sevastopol and Kazakhstan.
The most useful aspect of the Revolution rule is that it keeps the Russian player near their capital (if they charge off towards the Ottomans or Austria they will be “disappeared” quite quickly by a savvy CP player via the Revolution) and it forces them to defend their capital inefficiently.
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"I’m going to go out on a limb and say - I think you are trying to recreate the example of the Russian army evacuating the capital as is demonstrated in the Russian Revolution youtube video. If you are/were trying to recreate that, here is why I feel very strongly that this move is not good in the game we are currently playing.
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the move demonstrated in the video has the CP trying to bear hug the capital - that is not happening in our case as the CP have not hugged the capital - there is no bear hug
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in the video, the Russian army is in extremely good shape. for that move to hit max effect, youd want a large russian army on the map - the current russian army is not large as it has fought many, many battles. there is very little to save at this point in the game"
You put other reasons that I have already found to be true.
My question is mainly whether 13 infantry, 15 artillery, and 1 fighter in Moscow count as “very little” or too little to justify escaping to Karelia.
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Assuming all the other three points you listed were true.
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@SuperbattleshipYamato I can see I am speaking to a specific game we played. I don’t remember the game. If you can find the game and repost here, I can better understand the context.
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