TGC (axis) vs Ozy, LH, and HW (allies) AnA Anniversary '41, no bid

[hansworst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Caucasus

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Russia
        5 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Persia to India
        6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
        2 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia
        1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia
        1 aaGun moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia
        4 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Russia
        1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia
        1 submarine moved from 28 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
        1 armour, 3 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Persia: 1 armour
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to India: 1 armour
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0,67
Russians regular : -1,67

Savegame

[The_Good_Captain]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 34 Sea Zone: 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 transport
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 34 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 34 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 34 Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
              Japanese take Evenki National Okrug from Russians

    Combat - Japanese

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 carriers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from East Indies to 38 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma
        1 fighter moved from Burma to 38 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Yakut S.S.R. to 63 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 61 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        3 transports moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        5 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
        5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        5 infantry moved from 63 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
        3 armour moved from Soviet Far East to Evenki National Okrug
        1 artillery and 13 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
        4 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Yakut S.S.R.
        3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Suiyuan
        10 infantry moved from Hupeh to Ningxia
        1 infantry moved from Sikang to Ningxia
        3 infantry moved from Suiyuan to Ningxia
        3 armour moved from Yunnan to Ningxia

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 destroyer placed in 38 Sea Zone
        6 infantry placed in Japan
        3 infantry placed in Manchuria
        3 infantry placed in East Indies
        1 armour and 1 infantry placed in Burma

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[The_Good_Captain]

the edit: I never had any intention to split the Italians between the Italian and Japanese transport last turn. I just noticed this now. I don’t even remember the prompt for it. Anyway, thats what that was for. Apologies all the same. Will keep an eye out for that going forward. TripleA defaults to the absolute worst loading options I’ve noticed…

[LederhosenMachtFrei]

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 factory and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Baltic States

    Combat - British
        Battle in Baltic States
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Baltic States
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Baltic States
            British win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Russia
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
        6 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 3 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 fighter moved from Persia to India
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Belgian Congo

    Place Units - British
        4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
        1 factory placed in India

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1,00
British regular : 1,50

Savegame

[LederhosenMachtFrei]

Sorry for the delay. Had some busy days and the game completely slipped my mind.

Ready to go again :)

[The_Good_Captain]

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Belorussia
        2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Eastern Ukraine to Belorussia

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Baltic States
            Italians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Baltic States, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British lost in Baltic States
            Italians win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery
        Battle in Belorussia
            Italians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Belorussia
            Italians win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Poland
        1 armour moved from Eastern Ukraine to Poland
        1 armour moved from Poland to France
        1 armour moved from France to Italy
        4 infantry moved from Italy to France
        2 infantry moved from France to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma

    Place Units - Italians
        3 infantry placed in Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -1.33
Russians regular : -0.33

Savegame

[Ozymandiac]

@the_good_captain USA attacked SZ37 with 6 fighters and 1 bomber, and scored 4 hits. How would you like to assign losses?

[The_Good_Captain]

@ozymandiac soak one using the Battleship. Lose the aircraft carrier, lose one Italian cruiser, lose one Japanese cruiser.

[Ozymandiac]

@the_good_captain Japan scored 3 hits, USA sacrificed 3 fighters.
Remaining units:
USA: 3 fighters, 1 bomber.
Japan/Italy: 1 cruiser, 1 damaged battleship, 2 fighters.

USA persists in the attack and scores 2 hits. How would you like to assign these?

[The_Good_Captain]

@ozymandiac lose the Italian cruiser and one fighter

[Ozymandiac]

@the_good_captain You scored 1 hit, I assigned it to a fighter.

I persist, and score 1 hit. How would you assign it?

(There are 2 fighters + 1 bomber remaining, against 1 damaged battleship + 1 fighter)

[The_Good_Captain]

@ozymandiac I’ll lose the Japanese fighter

[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 armour and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery moved from Italian Africa to Rhodesia
              British take Rhodesia from Germans
        1 bomber and 6 fighters moved from India to 37 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber and 6 fighters
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport; Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 transports
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 6 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 2 fighters and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in 37 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 6 fighters
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship and 2 cruisers
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Persia to India
        1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Egypt
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        4 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Libya
        5 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 9 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 9 infantry and 5 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 9 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
        9 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
        1 bomber moved from Wake Island to India
        1 fighter moved from Persia to India
        1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Persia
        1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - Americans
        2 armour placed in Western United States
        8 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,17
Japanese regular : -1,33

Savegame

[Ozymandiac]

By the way: I was having trouble seeing the game’s history. I usually look at the turns before I take mine, but I kept getting errors about “merging values Italians and Italians”. Does this happen to anybody else as well?

[The_Good_Captain]

@ozymandiac got back from a tradeshow in Vegas and so I’ll do my turn today but now I feel compelled to ask a question that I feel you should not answer until the end of our game.

One of the more interesting themes I notice while playing this group (not sure if its one or all of you, I don’t really distinguish) is the willingness to take risks, sometimes rather large risks. I really like this because its an opportunity to really stress test the game engine but in that last battle, there was a 22% change of win albeit with a smallish -2 TUV swing BUT with at least two and probably three defending units remaining not including transports. Most folks I play wouldn’t take that. It worked out really well for the allies but that’s not relevant to this:

Did you take that because you felt you had to? Or otherwise, what was the thought process behind that move? I have about three educated guesses as to the answer.

I honestly think this question might be better left UNanswered until we conclude the game but I wanted to get this down now before I forgot my thoughts at this moment.

[The_Good_Captain]

EDIT: the battle sat at 27% chance of this outcome

[hansworst]

@the_good_captain
To answer at least 1 part of the question, I think all 3 of us could be considered quite “aggressive” players, although when we play amongst us there are some minor differences in risks we accept or avoid. I think it’s an interesting topic that I would love to discuss after the game. It’s a big part of the game, which attacks you make, which defensive positions you are willing to take. And I feel it’s not being talked about enough, at least i I haven’t really read intense discussions on this topic on this forum. Map, units, tactical movement and strategic territories are really well worked out, but actual gameplay is difficult to really discuss because the basis for these decisions is so fluid.

[The_Good_Captain]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 artillery and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Caucasus
        2 fighters moved from Eastern Ukraine to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Italy to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Caucasus

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Caucasus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 factory and 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine
        8 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
        6 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        3 armour moved from East Poland to Belorussia
        8 armour, 3 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Belorussia
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Italy
        1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Belorussia
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Belorussia
        1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Poland
        1 fighter moved from Germany to Poland
        10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        2 infantry moved from France to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Italy to France

    Place Units - Germans
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Germany
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Poland: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to East Poland: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 33 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.67

Savegame

[Ozymandiac]

@the_good_captain I had a feeling you would be curious :) We’ll get back to it when the game is finished.

[hansworst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 submarine moved from 32 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
        2 fighters moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 armour, 5 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from India to Burma
        3 armour moved from Persia to Burma

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 submarine
            Italians defend with 1 transport; Japanese defend with 2 transports
                2 transports owned by the Japanese and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
        Battle in Caucasus
            Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            Russians win, taking Caucasus from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Burma
            Russians attack with 4 armour, 5 artilleries and 8 infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 15 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 5 artilleries and 8 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/17 hits, 5,83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 16 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 6/20 hits, 7,00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 6 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Burma
            2 infantry owned by the Russians, 4 armour owned by the Russians and 5 artilleries owned by the Russians retreated to India
            Japanese win with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
            Casualties for Russians: 6 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Russia
        1 aaGun and 10 infantry moved from Chinghai to Kazakh S.S.R.
        1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
        2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -1,00
Germans regular : -0,33
Russians regular : -3,00

Savegame