@655321
It is permitted and not at all considered bad form. It would be expected from you.

If my opponent would NOT tip his battleship, I would probably ask him if he’s sure.

A bit late perhaps, but thanks for playing us. The other Axis players will be ‘Lederhosen macht Frei’ (Japan) and ‘hansworst’ (Italy).

Have a good game!

Nice idea!

People often encounter this when playing by forum: one player makes his combat moves, but needs to know a few things before rolling dice (like in your examples). In most cases, it can be solved by going ahead according to an honour system, where you choose the option you perceive as optimal. The opponent would be informed of choices you made on their behalf, and was given the option to redo a battle according to their wishes (this shouldn’t happen since the choice was obvious!).

When the optimal choice isn’t entirely clear, we’d usually ask the opponent (via phone).

You should probably state your goal: do you want to be able to enjoy a balanced game among friends, or do you want to spread this setup to the entire community?

Because people will only start playing this setup if it’s had a lot of feedback. If you want more (in depth) feedback on the setup you should think about setting up the pieces in TripleA, and post the setup as a savegame on the forums. No promises, but it will be easier for people to see what the board looks like and maybe try playing a couple of turns.

Could you edit 1 infantry from Karelia to Finland?

@The_Good_Captain Thanks for editing. And no worries, that Soviet sub is probably the most edited piece in the entire franchise

As to why playing online: I like playing this way because we can save the game and continue at a later time. I prefer playing face to face from time to time, but Covid has made that impossible.

As to why TripleA: The forum and its members made it very easy to start using it, when we first started looking for an online platform. Also it was free (not unimportant).
There are versions on Steam, but they offer only 1 scenario (1942) or seem very time consuming (Tabletop Simulator).

And a happy New Year

@hansworst You know me too well.

Have a good game, all.

I’ve only played a couple of Anniversary games with National Objectives, so not enough to give you an informed opinion. Forum consensus seems to be that NOs favour the Axis. I have a couple of generic thoughts on NOs and bids, though, maybe these answer your question in part.

Regarding National Objectives: The more games I play, the less I like NOs. The first reason is that they are forcing you to make moves that are strategically suboptimal. Most NOs are an incentive to conquer regions that were important in the real-world WW2, but these targets are sometimes not at all important in the A&A-universe. For example, most people playing Japan/USA will not be interested in diverting resources to Pacific Islands such as Midway and Wake Island, but there are multiple NOs that stimulate you to go after these 0 IPCs island that hold little strategic significance. It seems the NOs are mostly used to simulate history, but that’s not an interesting aspect to me. Other players are really into the historical aspect, however, so it’s a question of taste maybe.
The second reason is most NOs are valued at +5 IPCs, which is a huge amount in my opinion. In most cases, you cannot afford to ignore NOs. As an extreme example: France is mentioned in 4 NOs that are worth 5 IPCs each. Together with its 6 IPC value, that represents a swing of 12+20=32. In essence, once you enable NOs, France is not worth 6 but 16 (!). In this way, NOs force your hand, and you are discouraged to pursue other, non-historical paths.

Regarding bids: the question what a fair bid would be, has no good answer, I think. The first reason is that any bid is fair, since both players agreed to it. (I do understand, however, that it’s interesting to think about how large a bid should probably be).
The second reason is that the slightest mistake or bad dice roll can completely negate the bid. For example: If you look at the game of Go/Baduk, people have studies for years what compensation should be awarded to the player that moves 2nd (Go is won by gaining more points than your opponent, so unlike Chess, the score can be ‘corrected’). Although research is converging on a certain number for fair compensation, it’s mostly academic: the slightest mistake by a player – even at professional levels – completely overwhelms the compensation. And that’s a game without luck! So for A&A – a game with luck, played by amateurs – bids should be taken with a grain of salt.

@the_good_captain I had a feeling you would be curious We’ll get back to it when the game is finished.

By the way: I was having trouble seeing the game’s history. I usually look at the turns before I take mine, but I kept getting errors about “merging values Italians and Italians”. Does this happen to anybody else as well?

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 8

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 armour and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery moved from Italian Africa to Rhodesia
              British take Rhodesia from Germans
        1 bomber and 6 fighters moved from India to 37 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in 37 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber and 6 fighters
            Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport; Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 2 transports
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 6 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 2 fighters and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Italians, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 3 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/4 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 cruiser owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in 37 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 37 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in 37 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 6 fighters
            Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship and 2 cruisers
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Persia to India
        1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egypt Sudan to Egypt
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        4 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 fighter moved from 10 Sea Zone to Libya
        5 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 9 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 9 infantry and 5 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 9 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
        9 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
        1 bomber moved from Wake Island to India
        1 fighter moved from Persia to India
        1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Persia
        1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 52 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - Americans
        2 armour placed in Western United States
        8 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 40 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,17
Japanese regular : -1,33

Savegame

@the_good_captain You scored 1 hit, I assigned it to a fighter.

I persist, and score 1 hit. How would you assign it?

(There are 2 fighters + 1 bomber remaining, against 1 damaged battleship + 1 fighter)

@the_good_captain Japan scored 3 hits, USA sacrificed 3 fighters.
Remaining units:
USA: 3 fighters, 1 bomber.
Japan/Italy: 1 cruiser, 1 damaged battleship, 2 fighters.

USA persists in the attack and scores 2 hits. How would you like to assign these?

@the_good_captain USA attacked SZ37 with 6 fighters and 1 bomber, and scored 4 hits. How would you like to assign losses?

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
        1 fighter moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
        1 artillery moved from Belgian Congo to Italian Africa
              British take Italian Africa from Germans

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Rhodesia
            Americans attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Rhodesia
            Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Rhodesia to Persia
        4 fighters moved from Belgian Congo to India
        2 fighters moved from Egypt to India
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Persia to India
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
        3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        4 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        6 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        5 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        4 armour, 6 infantry and 5 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        4 armour and 6 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        1 carrier moved from 12 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        9 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
        1 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
        1 submarine moved from 46 Sea Zone to 57 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Solomon Islands to Wake Island
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to India

    Place Units - Americans
        1 fighter placed in 10 Sea Zone
        9 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        1 armour placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,33
Germans regular : 0,67

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 6

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 armour and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Persia to 48 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
        2 fighters moved from 23 Sea Zone to Rhodesia
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Rhodesia
        1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Rhodesia
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Rhodesia

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Rhodesia
            Americans attack with 5 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 2 armour
                Americans roll dice for 5 fighters and 1 infantry in Rhodesia, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Rhodesia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Rhodesia
            Americans win, taking Rhodesia from Germans with 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Germans: 2 armour
        Battle in 48 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 carrier and 1 transport
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 transport in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 carrier owned by the Japanese lost in 48 Sea Zone
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 48 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Belgian Congo
        5 fighters moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 23 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        6 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        4 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
        1 fighter moved from Chinghai to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 bomber moved from 48 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
        4 armour moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
        6 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
        1 bomber moved from Eastern Canada to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
        2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

    Place Units - Americans
        1 armour placed in Western United States
        9 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0,67
Japanese regular : -0,33
Germans regular : -1,00

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 armour, 5 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egypt Sudan
              British take Anglo-Egypt Sudan from Germans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to 12 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 23 Sea Zone to French Equatorial Africa
              British take French Equatorial Africa from Germans
        1 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to French Equatorial Africa
        2 infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to Belgian Congo
              British take Belgian Congo from Germans

    Combat - Americans
        Strategic bombing raid in Burma
                Japanese roll AA dice in Burma : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Burma rolls: 6 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory
            Bombing raid in Burma causes 4 damage total. 

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 12 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada
        1 bomber moved from Egypt to Eastern Canada
        1 bomber moved from Burma to Persia
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 12 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Libya to 12 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Persia
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Egypt

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Chinghai to Sikang
              Chinese take Sikang from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Americans
        1 submarine placed in 56 Sea Zone
        1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        2 armour placed in Western United States
        5 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese AA : -0,17

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 armour, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Chinese builds 0 units.

    Combat Move - Americans

    Combat - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Chinghai
        3 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 12 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
        3 transports moved from 12 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Morocco Algeria to Libya
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to Libya
        1 fighter moved from 12 Sea Zone to Libya
        2 fighters moved from Persia to Libya
        2 bombers moved from Persia to Egypt
        1 fighter moved from 3 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Libya to Egypt
        5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada

    Place Units - Americans
        2 armour and 1 fighter placed in Western United States
        6 infantry placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame