@axis-dominion @Daaras Good luck gents, following thread.
Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3
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would u be playing a different german rd 2-3 buyings if i went heavily to atlantic with usa?
just a question regarding my future games strategy plan. cheers
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even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis
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not if you evacuated Russia like you did, or at least g2 would have been the same. Though if you had gone heavy atlantic in this game and all other things the same, I would have just waited till J4 to DOW.
I think the pressure with Russia was interesting but not in the amount you did, especially with zero pullback. Having no air really screwed you. And then choosing not to retreat back to Russia on R4 at the latest was the killer.
But I would also never combine that with an emphasis on Italy. Italy is neutralized but there are less costly ways of doing that that dont neuter your ability to pressure germany. But in this game you applied zero pressure to germany and have no ability to apply pressure to germany.
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@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis
Not true, Russia can defend itself from this type of agression with more conservative buys and just a little help from UK.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Archangel Russians take Archangel from Germans 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hunan Combat - Russians Battle in Hunan Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hunan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Hunan Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 mech_infantry moved from Siam to Yunnan 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Yunnan 3 aaGuns, 8 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara 3 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia 2 infantry placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 29 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 33 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians : 1.17 Japanese : 0.67 -
otherwise everyone would just march on Russia. But it doesnt work most of the time.
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
even if did not send a single unit to china, u would still smashed moscow like nothing. i ve done the battle calc anaylsis
Not true, Russia can defend itself from this type of agression with more conservative buys and just a little help from UK.
well, i ve bought only inf ,and some mechs and art, even if you convert those mechs and art into inf, thats only a few inf more
how can uk put early pressure on germany?
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
otherwise everyone would just march on Russia. But it doesnt work most of the time.
thats how ur german play looks like to me in this game. i think u ve found the golden formula to smash moscow in any scenario.
allies need time to boost their engine, and while they do, ur germany smashes moscow already.
the key question is, can the allies take a foothold in w europe then.
but ur turbo mechanized corps can choose to smash ME or India (before or after moscow)
i simply think germans and axis are overpowered.
the bids will grow
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@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
rman play looks like to me in this game. i think u ve found the golden formula to smash moscow in any scenario.
allies need time to boost their engine, and while they do, ur germany smashes moscow already.
the key question is, can the allies take a foothold in w europe then.
but ur turbo mechanized corps can choose to smash ME or India (before or after moscow)
i simply think germans and axis are overpowered.and u had only 3 small air near russia, others were in w europe, so u can put 100 unis pressure on moscow in rd 6, this is incredible
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Landings in Normandy/Hol on UK3/4. It only takes a few units to dissuade this I think. If you go max defense with Russia, and germany loses no units G1 and goes all ground, I think its 85-90%. So takeaway a few units, add a UK plane or two, and it wont work and so I wont try it.
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
not if you evacuated Russia like you did, or at least g2 would have been the same. Though if you had gone heavy atlantic in this game and all other things the same, I would have just waited till J4 to DOW.
I think the pressure with Russia was interesting but not in the amount you did, especially with zero pullback. Having no air really screwed you. And then choosing not to retreat back to Russia on R4 at the latest was the killer.
But I would also never combine that with an emphasis on Italy. Italy is neutralized but there are less costly ways of doing that that dont neuter your ability to pressure germany. But in this game you applied zero pressure to germany and have no ability to apply pressure to germany.
the problem with pullback is taht it was too late when i wanted to pull back
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we can switch up and you can try it on me and I guarantee it wont work. I got 9 extra units just because you did nothing to defend Nov and had no air to make me defend my tt. So those can easily be avoided.
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
not if you evacuated Russia like you did, or at least g2 would have been the same. Though if you had gone heavy atlantic in this game and all other things the same, I would have just waited till J4 to DOW.
I think the pressure with Russia was interesting but not in the amount you did, especially with zero pullback. Having no air really screwed you. And then choosing not to retreat back to Russia on R4 at the latest was the killer.
But I would also never combine that with an emphasis on Italy. Italy is neutralized but there are less costly ways of doing that that dont neuter your ability to pressure germany. But in this game you applied zero pressure to germany and have no ability to apply pressure to germany.
yes, maybe its not the russian entering china that is teh problem, but putting more pressure on germany.
and pulling back air from china earlier definitely. a few mechs can stay
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
we can switch up and you can try it on me and I guarantee it wont work. I got 9 extra units just because you did nothing to defend Nov and had no air to make me defend my tt. So those can easily be avoided.
but how 9 units?
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yep, I dont think R1 was the problem. I think that has some nice benefits. And even R2 with a slight mod might have been ok.
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
we can switch up and you can try it on me and I guarantee it wont work. I got 9 extra units just because you did nothing to defend Nov and had no air to make me defend my tt. So those can easily be avoided.
so u say with weaker russia germany can more easily grab territories, russia losses money etc and then this gap between conservative russia and my russia is wider than it looks at first glance?
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if you had air in Nov, I couldnt have taken Nov, so thats 2 units, 3 units purchased, and then 2 units on G4. Sorry, maybe just 7
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
yep, I dont think R1 was the problem. I think that has some nice benefits. And even R2 with a slight mod might have been ok.
yeah, i am glad i am playing against u, trulpen, AD, Adam since this is the best way to test my strategies and to improve them. i have my style i wont renounce it, but i have to learn and put it on a greater level
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@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
if you had air in Nov, I couldnt have taken Nov, so thats 2 units, 3 units purchased, and then 2 units on G4. Sorry, maybe just 7
3 air and a few inf against ur stack of units + air, how would i defend it ? novgorod is doomed
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@Amon-Sul said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
@ksmckay said in Ksmckay (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +17) BM3:
we can switch up and you can try it on me and I guarantee it wont work. I got 9 extra units just because you did nothing to defend Nov and had no air to make me defend my tt. So those can easily be avoided.
so u say with weaker russia germany can more easily grab territories, russia losses money etc and then this gap between conservative russia and my russia is wider than it looks at first glance?
yes.
But even with max conservative Russia, if Germany does this is needs a little help. But I think if the help is around, Germany wouldnt try it, because if it fails germany is screwed. But there was no chance germany failed this game. I didnt even need any air.
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