Scramble to Taranto?
L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3
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arghh, sorry, might make a ncm edit. This is what happens, I look things over, decide every possible thing, then decide I am good to go and post. Then, I think what if I did that wrong, and then sure enough I miscalculated something I already checked. so please hold. I will let you know when you can proceed.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Baltic States Combat - Russians Russians creates battle in territory 125 Sea Zone Battle in 127 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 127 Sea Zone Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Battle in 125 Sea Zone Russians attack with 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine 1 submarine owned by the Russians Submerged 1 submarine owned by the Germans Submerged Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States Russians winGermans win with 1 cruiser remaining, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 127 Sea Zone to Russia 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Russia 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Russia 6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Russia 1 armour moved from Belarus to Bryansk 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia Place Units - Russians 10 infantry placed in Russia 3 infantry placed in Volgograd Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 40 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 42 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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ok good to go. I swear I calc’d out the far east twice and decided it was ok but it definitely wasnt.
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To avoid issues, it would be great if both of us could try to remember to post whats on what when leaving land units on transports. More of an issue for US/UK but tripleA tends to screw things up all the time, even when you take the time to give it the correct input. For example, 3 inf in the same sea zone as 3 transports. are they on two transports or three? In this case I am pretty certain its 3 inf on 3 but its really tricky to tell.
As I said its more important with allies and mixed usage but tripleA seems to get things screwed up all the time and sometimes it is impossible to tell from history.
Ill let you know when carriers have mixed air whenever its not obvious.
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Not sure how it happened however I received two rolls for Russia. First one roll for Baltic States, both sides, then again about 8 minutes later the exact same battle. Luckily they were both the exact same result so it is not an issue. Though it is a good opportunity to confirm that all rolls stand. If for some reason a player thinks they are on local and make a roll and it turns out that they were actually on PBEM that roll always stands.
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@ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:
To avoid issues, it would be great if both of us could try to remember to post whats on what when leaving land units on transports. More of an issue for US/UK but tripleA tends to screw things up all the time, even when you take the time to give it the correct input. For example, 3 inf in the same sea zone as 3 transports. are they on two transports or three? In this case I am pretty certain its 3 inf on 3 but its really tricky to tell.
As I said its more important with allies and mixed usage but tripleA seems to get things screwed up all the time and sometimes it is impossible to tell from history.
Ill let you know when carriers have mixed air whenever its not obvious.Good idea!
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@AndrewAAGamer said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:
Not sure how it happened however I received two rolls for Russia. First one roll for Baltic States, both sides, then again about 8 minutes later the exact same battle. Luckily they were both the exact same result so it is not an issue. Though it is a good opportunity to confirm that all rolls stand. If for some reason a player thinks they are on local and make a roll and it turns out that they were actually on PBEM that roll always stands.
havent done that in a long time. but yep. first roll counts.
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on the same subject, what happens if for example - I decided right now to do a test turn for US/UK and so used the russia file to skip over japan and execute the europe side of the board. And I accidentally left it in pbem mode so some dice were rolled. I would say its not a problem and the dice dont count because it was clearly unintentional since it wasnt even US/UK turn. Would you agree?
Just trying to avoid issues, particularly since you like things B/W.
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@ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:
And I accidentally left it in pbem mode so some dice were rolled. I would say its not a problem and the dice dont count because it was clearly unintentional since it wasnt even US/UK turn. Would you agree?
Absolutely it would NOT count. Dice only count on your Turn. Glad to confirm though as it is always easier to discuss up front than after it happens.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With French Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 armour moved from Hunan to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java 1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 artillery moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi Japanese take Shensi from Chinese 2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Philippines 1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kweichow Combat - Japanese Battle in Borneo Battle in Sumatra Battle in Guam Battle in Celebes Battle in Malaya Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Guam from Americans, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Java, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Philippines Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship in Philippines, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Philippines, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.33 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Japanese win, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malaya to 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from Philippines to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Kwangsi 2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Japan Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Manchuria 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Japan 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
ANZAC : -0.67 Americans : -0.67 Chinese : 0.67 UK_Pacific : 0.00 Japanese : 4.33 -
TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Trigger Russians Allied Americans 6: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans 1 marine moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Combat - Americans Battle in Gibraltar Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 armour, 3 infantry, 1 marine and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 1 marine, 2 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands Place Units - Americans 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi 2 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan Combat - Chinese Battle in Suiyuyan Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Kansu Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Shensi Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Kansu Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 5 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 76 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 fighter moved from India to 41 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from British Somaliland to Italian Somaliland British take Italian Somaliland from Italians 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from British Somaliland to 76 Sea Zone 2 cruisers, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany Combat - British Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany AA fire in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 3 damage total. Battle in 41 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in Trans-Jordan British attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 3 infantry British roll dice for 2 cruisers in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 3 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan British win, taking Trans-Jordan from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to India 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Burma to India 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Place Units - British 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,5,3,5,2,4 British collect 28 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 29 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 6 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 6 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -0.83 Italians : 0.00 AA fire in Western Germany : : -0.17 Chinese : -0.83 Japanese : -0.33 -
2 inf on 2 tt in 91
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so I figured out why I went crazy on russian turn. Check this out
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Exact same simulation, but changing the power from germany to Japan changes the results in a non insignficant way. I did the original sim using german and thought I was ok with things, then I was moving to US/UK thru japanese turn and thought I should confirm, and so the second time I used japan as the sim and got a completely different result.
Going to have to post this as clearly there is some funny business going on. Changed up different powers and different combinations produce one or the other result in a repeatable manner.
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@ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:
2 inf on 2 tt in 91
Thanks!
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@ksmckay said in L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies +16) Global 1940 2nd Ed BM3:
Going to have to post this as clearly there is some funny business going on. Changed up different powers and different combinations produce one or the other result in a repeatable manner.
That is TOTALLY BIZARRE! I can replicate it so it is not you. Weird…
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TripleA Move Summary: Italians round 3
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from Greece to 98 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone -
Scramble SZ98?
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no scramble
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Combat Move - Italians 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from Greece to 98 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Battle in Trans-Jordan Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 marine owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan Italians win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine Battle in Yugoslavia Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/9 hits, 3.17 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 1/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 3 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 4 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to France 2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis 2 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from France to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Southern Italy 3 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5 Italians collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians : -3.50 British : 1.00 Neutral_Allies : 0.67
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