Air Force

We were addressed as Warrant Officers by enlisted personell “Mr. Eicher” if we were not addressed specifically as Cadet.

Also, the Academies are a bit different from ROTC due to our oaths that we swear day one (as opposed to say a ROTC Cadet who signed up for Military History 101 to fullfil a health and phys ed requirement in college).

I honestly do not have the details.  I am going based on my training at USAFA in stating where we fell in the food chain.

Again, we had the rank, but not AUTHORITY.  So we received an amount of defference equivalent to a Warrant Officer from enlisted personell, but could not give orders.

Also, while I was in Ft. Benning, we had several West Point Cadets doing their pre-seior summer in my Bat, and the enlisted folks, (including the Seargeants in the cadre, including a Command Seargeant Major with a 101st Airborne Combat Patch from Vietnam) SALUTED those Cadets like any other officer.

Hell, we salute cadets.  Sure as heck does not mean they have order authority over a bucket full of urine.

I am talking Academy cadets too.

Lets ask this question another way.  If a cadet washed out of the Academy to the regular force, what rank was assigned?

I did not wash out to another branch.

I re-joined after I had my knees put back together.  Academy would not take me back, so I enlisted… PFC due to having completed USAFA Cadet BCT.

Not what I meant.  I understand you had a knee issue.

I meant generically, if a cadet failed the program, what was the assigned rank on transfer to the regular service?

I believe the Navy academy made them an E3, gave them a seabag and put them on something big, gray and underway.

If I am not mistaken it varies with how far along you are.

Prior to 2 years completed, you ETS without obligation (unless incarcerated).  Once you accept your Junior Year, you assume a military obligation.  I think you are correct that a C2C would become regular military as E-3, a C1C if I am not mistaken as E-6.

Of course since I went to E-3 on my enlistment with only about 6 months Academy service, I may be off a bit.

No matter how far along you are, the highest rank you can enlist into any branch is:

Army - E-4
Navy, Air Force and Marines - E-3

To get E-4 in the Army you MUST have a Bachelor’s degree and file an application packet to the promotion board.  (I helped a potential recruit through the process not this January, but last January while I was waiting for orders to go home.)

As for highest ranked on the board, anyone superceded Major? (Paygrade O-4?)

@Jennifer:

As for highest ranked on the board, anyone superceded Major? (Paygrade O-4?)

Yeah.  Civilian.

@Baghdaddy:

@Jennifer:

As for highest ranked on the board, anyone superceded Major? (Paygrade O-4?)

Yeah.  Civilian.

I think I heard that

before.  :lol:

Just FYI the non-graduating C1C convertions to active military as E-6 are not enlistments, so they would be exempt from that rule.