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    Star Wars Rebellion
    Check out this amazing game from Fantasy Flight Games, I’ve played it twice so far and it has easily become my favorite board game after Axis & Allies G40. I would love to discuss with anyone who has played, or will be purchasing it for themselves in the future, here’s a cool promotional video…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib4qXw0mqR0


  • This quite possibly be the best game that has come out this year!  I have half a dozen games under my belt so far.  Such a great game!

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    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    This quite possibly be the best game that has come out this year!  I have half a dozen games under my belt so far.  Such a great game!

    Awesome, what is your victory ratio for Imperial wins vs. Rebel wins?


  • I mostly play newbies, so I have only lost one game.  I was the imperials when I lost that game.  To me the game is pretty balanced.  It just takes a radically different mind set when playing the Rebels.  The game is a damn near perfect mix of Axis and Allies and GMT’s COIN series.

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    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    I mostly play newbies, so I have only lost one game. I was the imperials when I lost that game. To me the game is pretty balanced.  It just takes a radically different mind set when playing the Rebels. The game is a damn near perfect mix of Axis and Allies and GMT’s COIN series.

    I’m a noob as well, although I have caught on very fast with my A&A background, and it’s also a game that fits right into my psychological wheel house (so I’ve totally got the whole “different mind set” angle). I haven’t played the dark side yet, but I’m guessing you need to balance your attacks with a mix of jumping on systems that allow you to build cool stuff, but also remote systems as well to narrow down the rebel base… or should you first get the systems that build first before you reach the later rounds where building ends, and that’s when you should search for the base more?.. what do you think?


  • My two basic Empire strategies are expand and torture.  The first one involves holding back your leaders in order to command fleets.  The other involves capturing and missions that thin the probe deck.

    The torture strategy depends heavily on drawing the right cards and leaders.  The expand strategy can be done regardless of card draws.

    Either way, you have to take away rebel loyal systems because so many of ther objectives key off of rebel loyalty.

    Also the ONLY acceptable time to blow up a planet with the death star is when destroying a planet you KNOW is the base.  Otherwise it’s a liability.

    Oh, more often than not the rebel base is on an unpopulated planet because Empire players don’t want to go there.

    Does this help?  I can dive deeper if you want.

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    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    My two basic Empire strategies are expand and torture.  The first one involves holding back your leaders in order to command fleets.  The other involves capturing and missions that thin the probe deck.

    The torture strategy depends heavily on drawing the right cards and leaders.  The expand strategy can be done regardless of card draws.

    I had my mind set on expanding.

    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    Either way, you have to take away rebel loyal systems because so many of ther objectives key off of rebel loyalty.

    True, I won the only game we finished (second game was interrupted before we could finish) as the rebels because of the amount of loyalty I had was uncontested.

    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    Also the ONLY acceptable time to blow up a planet with the death star is when destroying a planet you KNOW is the base.  Otherwise it’s a liability.

    I did not know this… thanks.

    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    Oh, more often than not the rebel base is on an unpopulated planet because Empire players don’t want to go there.

    That’s how I choose my rebel base, so if I understand… the Empire has to jump on populated systems to grow their fleet, they have to jump on Rebel loyal systems to stall their objectives, and they have to jump on remote systems to find the Rebel base… sounds difficult seeing that the Rebels can move their base with one of their starting mission cards.


  • There is a level 3 objective that gives the Rebels X reputation points where X is the number of blown away systems.

    Even when I know a remote system is much more likely to hold the base, I still subconsciously avoid them because of what you said.  It’s harder to get my fleet going.

    Most missions aren’t worth it.  And the project deck is almost worthless.  It’s just a shiny object to distract you.

    Boba Fett kicks ass….  but only for capture missions and opposing intelligence missions.  Him not being able to command fleets is a huge liability.  Recruit him wisely.

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    Great food for thought, thanks… I’ll be back.

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    The game is fantastic, I love it. The asymmetry is well thought out the thematic elements shine for me as a big SW fan.

    Between the random game setup, mission draws and recruitment no two games are the same, so the game stays fresh.

    In terms of strategies, they do boil down to conservative and aggressive approaches for both sides.  An aggressive Rebel player engages the Empire to gain combat objectives as well as blockading and sabotaging systems to choke Imperial supply lines. The benefit here is Sabotage can be run every turn and is not dependent on specific missions.

    A passive Rebel player can play Infiltration to tailor the game to missions drawn by looking for objectives that mesh with the game situation. The player can use a large fleet to either defend the base or draw attention from the Empire. An offshoot of this is playing Rapid Mobilization every turn to cycle the deck for future moves by putting eligible move on the bottom. Of course one can play Infiltration and Sabotage liberally every turn as a hybrid.

    For the Empire expansion in all directions is common, but some players like to use Rule by Fear every turn to either make systems loyal or more importantly remove Rebel loyalty from subjugated systems to prevent the many diplomacy related objectives. I would argue the Imperial player should play R&D at least twice a game, preferably early, since many of the projects can be useful to build -like a Super Star Destroyer- or to get a valuable logistics card to deploy extra units in advance of an attack on the Rebel Base.

    When the opportunity comes the Empire should pursue capture and interrogation since there are so many good possibilities:
    -Lose reputation through Carbon Freezing
    -Gain an extra leader through Lure of the Dark Side (hard to pull off on Luke since he’ll often be protected by a savvy Rebel player)
    -Remove an objective from the Rebel player’s hand (can be critical to remove a gimme one late game)
    -Locate the base through Homing Beacon or Interrogation Droid

    Just my two cents. Boardgamegeek is already running Play by Forum games using a Vassal module.

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    Great analysis GV, how many games have you got in and what is the Empire win ration compared to the rebels?

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    I’ve played over ten in person and one online, and while I don’t have an exact tally in my head I have to say it’s been virtually 50/50, and that is in line with FFG’s initial survey:

    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/7/1/what-of-the-rebellion/

    My experience with recruitment is very similar, Fett is a must for the Empire and Han can get the Rebels an extra leader or the Falcon.

    The big question players have is which faction should be used for introducing the game. Having numerical superiority is good for a new player so it feels like he or she’s in control as opposed to the outgunned Rebels. It does make sense for new players to see the objective deck before starting the game so they have some idea about what missions to perform as the Rebels and what to guard against as the Empire.


  • I think it’s better to introduce players as the Empire.  This is because the Empire could do a lot better with a typical “dudes-on-a-map” strategies.  You really have to think like a guerilla warrior when playing as the Rebels.

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    For sure… I watched a ton of youtube videos about this game before I dropped the $130 after Canadian taxes, but my first game was with a buddy that knew nothing about it. I took the rebels and one of my first instincts was to let him look at as many of my mission cards and objective cards as he wanted to… the last thing I needed was for me to play a powerful card during the game and see him cry foul for imbalance.


  • Just got this and familiarising myself with the rules.

    Lovely minis, classic theme, and I like how the rules are shaping up. Using leaders as the mechanism for moving things around is nice.

    The boardgamegeek ranking system never lies 🙂

    Cred

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    Had an epic game of Star Wars Rebellion and we have already added a house rule…

    The Rebellion will lose 1 reputation equal to the times they move the rebel base. Therefore, 1st time results in losing 1 reputation, 2nd time results in losing 2 reputation… etc.


  • That may tilt the game too much into the Empire’s favor…  Let us know what your findings are.

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    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    That may tilt the game too much into the Empire’s favor… Let us know what your findings are.

    I get that, and we did have a plan B which was… -1 reputation each time the Rebels move their base.

    This needs to happen or the rebels just play disappearing act while the Empire feels like they’re back to square 1 with just a couple game rounds left (although,… I only have 3 games of experience under my belt). This new rule would also be thematically accurate, as the galaxy would definitely become more nervous of Imperial rule if the rebels are always forced to move their base.

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    Question…

    Do project cards count as part of the 10 card limit you’re allowed in your hand?


  • Yes, they count towards your hand limit.

    Have you been dumping all of the units at the system where the base is once they change systems?  For example if there are a crap ton of units on Yavin 4 and then move to Hoth, the units do NOT go to Hoth.  They stay on Yavin 4.

    I find having to start fresh makes it easier for the Empire to destroy the base when they find it again.  I crushed a player as the Empire once even after they changed their base twice.

    Having said all that, a -1 rep each time they change bases is better than a summation loss of rep points.

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    Ok, so they only move the base and all units on the base stay in the old system (makes sense). Not saying that in our game the base was moved… but knowing that those units are abandoned really helps.

    Next question…

    With the rebels “Regional Support” objective card that reads “Play if all populous systems in 1 region have Rebel loyalty”… what if one of those systems is where the rebel base is?, would he not be revealing the rebel base if he plays it to gain a reputation?


  • The Rebel Base does NOT count as a system.  Thus if the Rebel Base was on Naboo (for example), the planet on the map would need Rebel loyalty to complete that objective.

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    As the Empire it’s a good idea to cover all corners of the board in the event of a relocated base. Plus one hedge against relocated base is to leave a Star Destroyer and AT-AT on the build queue to have them ready to slam the new base once you narrow it down.

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    @ChromiumAgeCollector:

    The Rebel Base does NOT count as a system.  Thus if the Rebel Base was on Naboo (for example), the planet on the map would need Rebel loyalty to complete that objective.

    So let me lay out a scenario and please tell me if anything is incorrect… The base is in Naboo, there are 9 units in the rebel base space, and the rebel player needs loyalty on Naboo to achieve the Regional Support objective. Therefore, the rebel player transports a ground unit onto Naboo to make it loyal and in turn, keeping the rebel base secret while completing their objective. However, if the Empire attacks Naboo next turn… will the Rebel player use base units as well as the transported unit in the system as defence, or does the Emipre need to first attack and subjugate the system before the rebels are forced to reveal that Naboo is in fact where the base is.

    Thanks for all the clarifications.

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    Once the base is revealed through Imperial loyalty or a ground assault, all units in the Rebel base space are immediately sent to the system space. Note the Rebel player can voluntarily reveal the base at the beginning of the command phase.

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