• You could just house rule than if Russa revolts it still counts as a victory city…


  • Then the allies would never revolt.

    Edit: After I post I sense sarcasm…

    House rule the axis decide ;)


  • @italiansarecoming:

    Then the allies would never revolt.

    Edit: After I post I sense sarcasm…

    House rule the axis decide ;)

    No sarcasm, if Moscow is taken, it counts as Victory City, if it Revolts, still counts as Victory point.


  • @Flashman:

    USA builds a massive stack of infantry, and now has the French navy to help ship them over. Two more units reinforce Rome, but should the main American puss now be further north?

    America’s kitty is exactly where it should be.

  • Customizer

    A Paris salon?


  • precisely

  • Customizer

    OK, assuming I now understand the Russian revolution, I can proceed with

    THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS

    AUSTRIA

    Presses its siege of Moscow, but the Russian hold on with 4 defenders. Once again the build up in Italy is too slow to launch a final assault on Rome.

    RUSSIA

    Not risking a strafing attack on the Austrians, Russia decides to go Red.

    GERMANY

    Bulks up its western front once more, rippling units down from Kiel to Alsace. Transports bring a few eastern stragglers over to Kiel. Far from being trapped in the east, Germany now has only 3 units in Russia, the obligatory infantry in (shared) Livonia, and 2 in Karelia who decide to stay behind to defend against a possible British breakout attack from Livonia.

    FRANCE

    Makes a big offensive in Alsace, trading 10 casualties each with the Germans. There is not much else the French can do really; a rather boring power to play in fact.

    BRITAIN

    Makes more attacks. The single German in Africa still holds out. Arabia is reinforced, but the tanks corps in Persia is pulled back to India. The Sevastopol army, fearing deportation to Siberia, attacks CP armies, capturing Ukraine and Romania from the token defenders left by the big CP push to Moscow.

    The British Livonia force occupies Poland, leaving the Austrian army only a narrow escape route through shared Livonia.

    A massive attack in the Ruhr by 9 infantry and 4 artillery supported by 3 planes and 8 tanks nearly breaks the German line, with 10 defenders eliminated.  With all 7 enemy hits cancelled the road to Berlin may soon be open. Â

    A new Battleship is laid down in the North Sea, and Britain now feels secure enough to teleport all 12 new infantry divisions to Bombay; a reckoning with the Turks is at hand.

    TURKEY

    Goes on the attack against the British. They avoid the trap set for them in Persia and swing south, recapturing Trans-Jordan and taking control of Arabia.
    In Europe their Tartarstan force smashes the remains of the First Indian Army in Ukraine, while from the west the Bulgarians fight the Brits to a bloody mutual annihilation in Romania which now turns “black”.

    ITALY

    Cannot afford to buy a single unit, but makes a strafing attack against the Austrian besiegers, removing 2 more of the precious Hapsburg artillery; a carro armato deflects a hit to demonstrate that tanks can be useful even in the odd unit. Italy collect 2 IPCs from its African colonies.

    USA

    Sends its customary supplies to the Rome garrison, but a large fleet carrying 10 divisions sets sail from New York. Initially intending to stop for some R&R in Portugal, they divert to Spanish Morocco after a tip-off about the undefended state of the place. America’s income goes up to a big 21 IPCs.
    A green infantry division watches as 3 “Liberty” tanks roll of the production line in Detroit.

    The Central Powers are entitled to feel well and truly swindled by the Russian business. Cheated of Moscow, they now have to fight to retain the Russian tts they did manage to capture. Britain’s policy of pouring troops into Karelia by sea, and from India via Persia has ensured that Revolution does not close down the eastern front, it merely exchanges one enemy there for another.
    The CPs don’t even score a victory objective if they capture India, which Turkey threatened to do.

  • Customizer

    TURN EIGHT

    AUSTRIA

    An attack on Italy strafes off a couple of Americans. But there are too many Austrians in transit.

    Fatally, the Austrian army in the east is trapped in Moscow by the absurd ruling that it cannot abandon a “shared” tt, even though units in Moscow are useless to Austria, because it has only one infantry.

    On hearing the new Emperor Franz-Joseph falls down stone cold dead and his successor Carl sues for peace.

    GERMANY

    In a last-ditch attempt to salvage something in the west, Germany joins its two armies in Ruhr and Alsace in a massive attack on the BEF. In a 3 vs 2 air battle, the German air force is shot out of the sky. Nevertheless, their artillery takes a fearful toll of the British infantry. Crucially, the Royal Tank Corps survives unscathed.

    FRANCE

    The main army takes Alsace from the token defender. Moving through from Burgundy, the French 2nd Army defeats the Germans in Piedmont.

    BRITAIN

    The Glorious Russian Expeditionary Force moves west to take Poland. Mesopotamia is recaptured from the Turks. Annoyingly, the lone German contesting Gold Coast survives another attack.

    Reserves moving through from Belgium join the BEF to inflict more crushing casualties on the Germans in Ruhr. The line buckles again, but does not break; an infantry and tank holding on.  But the German army is now nearly gone, and the BEF once more takes no losses due to its tank stack.

    The RN steams into the Heligoland Sea and sends the German navy to the bottom.

    TURKEY

    Recaptures Mesopotamia once more, but with a large Indian army now facing them in Persia. Romania is rescued from anarchy, and a force crosses the undefended Suez canal to capture Egypt.

    ITALY

    The heroic defenders of Rome rise from their trenches and attack the Austrians, liberating the city by destroying all 4 Hapsburgers. Italy collects a big 8 IPCs.

    USA

    Sailing from Spanish Morocco, the AEF disembarks in Egypt and crushes the Turks.

    At this point the Central Powers offer peace without annexations.

    Did they play badly, or face impossible odds?

    Austria was broken by the 5 step march on Rome. They always had the units to take it, but couldn’t get them there fast enough due to the designers irrational fear of the efficient Central Powers railway system.

    Germany got a huge army into Burgundy, but Paris was a step too far, and once again the lack of railways fatally stalled the offensive.

    Turkey recovered well from losing ground early on, taking over the Balkans as the Teutons moved into Russia.

    But above all the Great Russian Revolution Swindle killed the Central Powers. All that blood spent in the east for what? They only turned east to get to grips with the enemy since Paris and Rome were too far away to force a result, yet they were cheated of Moscow, soon lost most of the tts they had conquered, and were trapped in the east by nonsensical rules about having to share tt with Bolshevik Commissars.

    Next game I must try the Munich PC; after that its rail movement all the way.

    I also need to get some army boards constructed; I was getting well pissed off by the stacking problem on the western front towards the end.

    I’m a convert to tanks - they were devastating in the decisive battles in the west.

    Overall I still love the game, but it does need a couple of fixes.


  • Why don’t you just house rule Moscow counts as a VP if the revolution scores? And house rule Bombay as well if you want.

  • Customizer

    Consider it done.

    See the “Is Russia too weak” thread.


  • So when are we getting turn 9 ;)


  • Seeing as how the Kaiser has admitted defeat I doubt ever

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