L12G40 jim010 (allies -5) vs seththenewb(axis) NT triplea

[seth4god]

It worked out for you . . . unfortunately. This is arguably one of my worst G1 openings ever. I’ve had games were I didn’t take Bess or Baltic, but usually I kill a couple more units along the way and I don’t remember losing both battles and having 3 soviets left over. No bb left, paris, and the 2 50-50 sea battles on top of it. Ha, this should be a little bit more challenging then usual. You could potentially hit Romania, but your fighter/tac have to land in bess and that sets them up for a counter. At least EPL went without a hitch, I could only imagine losing an inf or two and giving you a counter there on top of everything else!

[jim010]

I must say, very impressively aggressive.  When this is over, for you or me, I’m curious as to your thought on this opeing versus waitng for G2.

[jim010]

I’ll do Russia later.

I am also transerfing this to battlemap so I can use that program to plan.

Cheers

[seth4god]

@jim010:

I’ll do Russia later.

I am also transerfing this to battlemap so I can use that program to plan.

Cheers

I’ll tell you why in a couple turns if you haven’t figured it out by then.  :evil:

[seth4god]

@seththenewb:

@jim010:

I’ll do Russia later.

I am also transerfing this to battlemap so I can use that program to plan.

Cheers

I’ll tell you why in a couple turns if you haven’t figured it out by then.  :evil:

I do have other games up that I’ve done this on if you felt the need to scout me.

[jim010]

No fun in that.  I like to discover for myself.

[jim010]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 artilleries and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Eastern Poland

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 4 armour and 3 infantry
                Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 4 armour and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 5 infantry
                Russians win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 4 armour and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 5 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                  Russians take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 aaGun moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 aaGun moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.

Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs

[seth4god]

Need scramble orders for hawaii and phillipine seazones. note, those are two bbs off the phil.

j1scramblers.tsvg

[jim010]

No scramble.

[seth4god]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :1

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With French: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With British And ANZAC: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Americans: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Japanese
            Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
            Giving bonus movement to units
            2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Kwangtung
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangtung
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangtung
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            Game Loaded
                Japanese are now being played by: Human
                Germans are now being played by: Human
                French is now being played by: Human
                British are now being played by: Human
                Chinese are now being played by: Human
                Dutch is now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Axis are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_Allies are now being played by: Human
                ANZAC is now being played by: Human
                Russians are now being played by: Human
                UK_Pacific is now being played by: Human
                Mongolians are now being played by: Human
                Neutral_True is now being played by: Human
                Italians are now being played by: Human
                Americans are now being played by: Human

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 transports
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 cruiser
                British defend with 1 battleship
                Japanese win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship
                Japanese win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Chinese win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -28
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in 26 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 26 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            2 bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan
            2 carriers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu
            2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total

[seth4god]

These dice are driving me insane  :|

[jim010]

I feel for you.  I haven’t looked at the map yet, but I’ve had a run of losses that I can attribute to dice (and my opponents taking advantage of my bad luck very expertly).

I remember I had 97% odds on taking Moscow on turn 6 in one of my recent games.  Odds said I should live with 12 units.  Instead he lived with 14 units.  :cry:

[jim010]

I’m at work and don’t have triple A.  I may be leaving for the weekend, so I may not even get Allies done until I get back.

I need time to see how to deal with your openings anyway.  Fastest you can get to Moscow is turn 5, but it looks like you need to pause for a turn, so turn 6 realistically.  I have some projections to work out.

Japan is intersting.  I’ve heard of others doing this, but never played against it.  I may break my own rule and actually look at some other games for inspiration.

Cheers

[jim010]

I see, now going through the summary that Phi and Yunnan went bad.  Pain in the butt.

[seth4god]

No worries, feel free to do so. I think I’m like 5-2 with this strat. The first loss doesn’t really count since Germany was strong but my Japanese partner sacrificed most of his IJN on the 1st turn to counters and US only had to put 2ss in the pac after turn 1. US can full bore Europe and Japan was in no position to win. The second loss came when I missed a near 100% can open of Denmark and sack of Berlin even though the rest of the map was looking good but still very much up in the air.

My strat is to go balls to the wall and force the allies to the breaking point. I have an advantage in terms of men and material but must overcome a disparity in initial production. Why wait to kick off the war when the allies have such an advantage? I wait too long and the allies will outproduce the axis to death. US is key here, too little or too much in either side will mean a win on whichever side US isn’t spending on. And forced to split their buys, US isn’t nearly as strong or dominant. Russia can be a quick win for me or Japan can take India and be one VC away from the win or bum rush Moscow/Mideast. If nothing else, it’s a fun and interesting game!  :-D

[seth4god]

Although my opening was far from perfect and my strat might be staring at it’s 3rd loss if the dice continue to be lopsided.  :-P

[jim010]

My opener is not really much different, but I aim for a turn 6 Moscow starting on G2 instead of G1.  Looks like we just have a variation of the same theme in Europe.

Japan is certainly a fresh opener, though.  Carries the same theme as the India Crush of old.

You’re right, it will be interesting.  Quite a problem for me to solve.

But the dice are fickle.

Anyway, have a good weekend.

[jim010]

Holy crap, I lived with my fht in sz111?

I take back what I said - I’m happy I scrambled!

[jim010]

I got 4 hits in sz31.

I need to know what you lose.

Map.

[seth4god]

Man, 4 hits .  . . . hmmm. Usually I stock the dd there instead of sz6, first time anyone’s hit me there.

Let’s see, kill 2 tac + cv.