new G40 game kublakhan Vs. feckingwrecked
China how long does it stay around in your games?
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China is easy to neuter, difficult to eliminate.
Turn 5 in our current game has china going down to 2 territories
I think india is a more worthy target leaving china stuck for endgame.
If russia gets strong then ugh.
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In our games Russia has been sending the 2 Novobirsk inf into China every turn. This really makes China a serious issue for the Japanese who have a hard enough time with them in P40. India is actually not as scary because they often send planes to help egypt, and you can take their IPC base and sub their convoys and bomb their IC, so they can be slowed down to a crawl if the USA isn’t dumping 80IPC’s on the japanese mainland.
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In our games Russia has been sending the 2 Novobirsk inf into China every turn. This really makes China a serious issue for the Japanese who have a hard enough time with them in P40. India is actually not as scary because they often send planes to help egypt, and you can take their IPC base and sub their convoys and bomb their IC, so they can be slowed down to a crawl if the USA isn’t dumping 80IPC’s on the japanese mainland.
Which 2 Novo inf (considering you are talking about Global)? In the Global game, Russia no can has 2 inf per turn in Novo.
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In our games China usually makes it to the 3rd or 4th rounds before being all but done. All you really need form China is to bogg Japan down in southwest China trying to take and hold Yunan. If, at the end of turn 2 Yunnan is still under Chinese control, they have done their Job. This means Japan has to, and will, re-take it on their 3rd turn, and wont have a tt close enough to India send their huge stacks of Tacs and fighters and land them safely. This gives India crucial breathing space, and if Japan takes it back turn 3, British India can take it back on their turn, and be re-inforced by the Chinese before Japan can respond.
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I think one of the problems is that once you start war with Russia… they start helping CHINA. it’s a trade off.
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The real problem is that Russsia starts the war with you by taking Korea. That forces Japan to tackle both China and Russia, or risk losing its foothold on the mainland.
It is a balancing act that is hard to master. Japan can not spread itself too thin in China, but it needs to if it wants to carry out the war in other areas at the same time.
China can be a royal pain, especially if the Burma road remains open.
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A clever Russian player would allow a few Chinese territories to die off before they help and liberate them i.e. now they have controll of them as I thought Chinese territories don’t get liberated unless recaptured by China please correct me if im wrong and then the Soviets help China while gaining Ipcs from territories China lost making it best of both worlds for them.
Extra IPC plus having two communist forces attacking Japan
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in our first global game china was almost eliminated (2 territories left) but by the end they were an unstoppable force. in the third game thay were all gone by round four.
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@The:
A clever Russian player would allow a few Chinese territories to die off before they help and liberate them i.e. now they have controll of them as I thought Chinese territories don’t get liberated unless recaptured by China please correct me if im wrong and then the Soviets help China while gaining Ipcs from territories China lost making it best of both worlds for them.
Extra IPC plus having two communist forces attacking Japan
Chinese territories are like any other Allied territories. If an allied player (eg. Russia) takes it back from Japan, the control and IPC income of that territory go back to China. This is also the case for all the Chinese coastal territories held by Japan at the start of the game. Any territory with the Chinese Nationalist symbol is considered originally Chinese and the IPC value of those territories goes to China. There are only two Japanese territories on the mainland that can be captured and controlled by Allied powers other than China: Korea and Siam.
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@The:
A clever Russian player would allow a few Chinese territories to die off before they help and liberate them i.e. now they have controll of them as I thought Chinese territories don’t get liberated unless recaptured by China please correct me if im wrong and then the Soviets help China while gaining Ipcs from territories China lost making it best of both worlds for them.
Extra IPC plus having two communist forces attacking Japan
Chinese territories are like any other Allied territories. If an allied player (eg. Russia) takes it back from Japan, the control and IPC income of that territory go back to China. This is also the case for all the Chinese coastal territories held by Japan at the start of the game. Any territory with the Chinese Nationalist symbol is considered originally Chinese and the IPC value of those territories goes to China. There are only two Japanese territories on the mainland that can be captured and controlled by Allied powers other than China: Korea and Siam.
Notably, those are also the only orange territories China can’t take
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Why not ignore China all together? Basically give them the few terriotories that they can conquor/Enter and Smash the U.K. right away.
I know there are a couple of important victory cities lurking on the Chinese mainland but you can always come back to them.
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The only problem with ignoring them all together is that they can begin to earn alot of money. 12 IPC’s+6 for the Burma road each turn. And that is before they take any other territiory.
If you let China buld 6 inf a turn for several turns, those units add up.
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The chinamen can now park at Burma, so ignoring them a even worst idea than in later games
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@13thguardsriflediv:
Which 2 Novo inf (considering you are talking about Global)? In the Global game, Russia no can has 2 inf per turn in Novo.
Really? I know its a blurb in the Europe section of the RB, not in the Global. But its not a Euro only NO or a Global only NO, so I assumed that global was all of the euro rules and all the pacific rules, with a few added pieces, and the only difference was that you replaced the two sets of NO’s with the Global NO list. That means that you include rules like the Novo inf and Japanese Kamakazi tokens and the like.
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@13thguardsriflediv:
Which 2 Novo inf (considering you are talking about Global)? In the Global game, Russia no can has 2 inf per turn in Novo.
Really? I know its a blurb in the Europe section of the RB, not in the Global. But its not a Euro only NO or a Global only NO, so I assumed that global was all of the euro rules and all the pacific rules, with a few added pieces, and the only difference was that you replaced the two sets of NO’s with the Global NO list. That means that you include rules like the Novo inf and Japanese Kamakazi tokens and the like.
To my understanding the NO in Europe that gives 2 inf to Russia in Novosibrisk while there are at war does not applie in Global. Those infantry in E40 represent infantry returning from the east. In Global those are the 18 infantry and the russian player returns them if they will. I dont have the rule book with me now so I cant look it up but I believe that Krieghund made this ruling else where in these forums. Does anyone remember where that ruling is?
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Yes it was determined that the global political situation and NO’s replace that of the E40 (and P40) game. The 2nd paragraph on page #33 of the Global Rules “Political Situations, Nation Objectives, and Bonus Income” spells it out quite clearly. So no you don’t get the 2 free Russia inf in global, they represent the Siberian forces returning to home only in the E40 game as Bruda said.
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The chinamen can now park at Burma, so ignoring them a even worst idea than in later games
Can China now attack Burma in Global? I thought I read Kwangtung (Hong Kong) was it.
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China can attack into Kwangtung and Burma, the only 2 non-Chinese tt in the game China can move units into, with the exception of the Flying Tigers, which are not allowed to land in either.
I have seen a growing number of instances where the Japanese player will send its airforce to kill off large stacks of Inf in the hinterlands of China, without land units to take the tt itself. It seems a pretty good idea, as your risk of loss is fairly low, but it seems like such an unfair move :roll: oh well
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I reccomend doing a KCF(kill China first)
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China can attack into Kwangtung and Burma, the only 2 non-Chinese tt in the game China can move units into, with the exception of the Flying Tigers, which are not allowed to land in either.
I have seen a growing number of instances where the Japanese player will send its airforce to kill off large stacks of Inf in the hinterlands of China, without land units to take the tt itself. It seems a pretty good idea, as your risk of loss is fairly low, but it seems like such an unfair move :roll: oh well
Actually, the Tigers CAN land in Burma
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