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    3 IPC’s isn’t much for the allies esp the US, but I doubt I’d ever spend the 3 as Ger or Japan. I’d rather have the extra inf, esp for Ger. With a bid maybe Ger could afford it but again, I think I’d rather have the inf. Then again I like to buy an occassional ftr with Ger. So heck, maybe it is worth it.


  • Well IMO without a bid in either RR or no RR you should have little chance to win as the Axis. That being said there are really only two neutrals the Germans would likely ever want to take Turkey, and Sweden.


  • I can see Germany taking Spain. If the allies land a fighter in Gibraltar (perhaps after taking out the German Med. Fleet), I will consider blitzing a tank through Spain and attacking with one tank and all available fighters. I would be happy to trade a tank + 3 ipcs = 8 for a fighter = 12. I might even be able to retrieve the tank back from Gibraltar if the Allies don’t counter attack right away.

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    I don’t think you can do that in one turn. I’m pretty sure when you blitz a neutral you must stop there.


  • @221B:

    I can see Germany taking Spain. If the allies land a fighter in Gibraltar (perhaps after taking out the German Med. Fleet), I will consider blitzing a tank through Spain and attacking with one tank and all available fighters. I would be happy to trade a tank + 3 ipcs = 8 for a fighter = 12. I might even be able to retrieve the tank back from Gibraltar if the Allies don’t counter attack right away.

    The allies nearly never land a plane on Gibralter. Further, I can never see Germany taking Spain. In fact, i can rarely see an Axis taking a neutral country. The fact is that this costs in effect 6 ipcs. Why? Well, not only have you taken Spain (3 ipcs), but you also have removed the need for the Allies to pay to take Spain (also 3 ipcs). Further you have made Europe more desirable to invade as that “neutral 3 ipc cost” thing is often a psychological barrier to the landing on Spain (and i love landing Spain as the UK, and then Shuck-shucking from the US - i can have as many as 14-18 inf before Germany can shake its head this way).

    Also 221b - i do like your idea of taking Peru. I think that this is a worthy use of 3 ipcs as not only does it allow you the acquisition of Brazil, however it also may distract the US, allowing Germany a little more liebensraum (did i spell that right?).


  • more love space for the germans? :)

    i am sorry that i have to destroy your hopes on correct spelling ;) , the “i” changes Leben (Live) to Liebe (love)…. i don’t think that that had any role in the Nazi doctrine ;)


  • Again lets dispell the whole cost argument for not taking a neutral once and for all. There is always risk when making a trade say 2inf ftrs versus 2inf, and this risk is especially true when 2inf defend because on the opponents last turn they got lucky and didn’t take a loss. In this case there is at least an 11% chance you fail to take which in effect costs 3ipcs perphaps more if you consider the enemy doesn’t have to put a guy there to retake. So I look at invading a neutral with Germany/Japan much in the same way. Yes losing 1 guy isn’t great, but as long as you don’t do it every turn you’ll be okay, and if this neutral can allow you to preempt or counter a stronger Allied move like Turkey, or divert precious resources like Sweden then it has served its purpose and probably paid for itself. Usually when the Allies start landing troops in Africa on turn2 Germany has a very hard time making any money there and if any bid has been made there it is a financial hit to take because these units won’t make you any money.


  • @F_alk:

    more love space for the germans? :)

    i am sorry that i have to destroy your hopes on correct spelling ;) , the “i” changes Leben (Live) to Liebe (love)…. i don’t think that that had any role in the Nazi doctrine ;)

    arrghhhh!!!
    i KNOW that too!! My German sucks, but i knew that “Liebe” meant “Love”.
    d’Oh!


  • I don’t think you can do that in one turn. I’m pretty sure when you blitz a neutral you must stop there.

    You might be right, I do seem to recall there being some rule like this :oops: . If so, then my idea wouldn’t work and would be a waste of 3 ipcs for no gain.


  • @F_alk:

    more love space for the germans? :)

    i am sorry that i have to destroy your hopes on correct spelling ;) , the “i” changes Leben (Live) to Liebe (love)…. i don’t think that that had any role in the Nazi doctrine ;)

    wait a second - how does this apply to liebfraumilch (a darn nice wine)? I thought this was “milk of a young woman”.


  • how does any of this apply to neutral countries in a&a?


  • @marine36:

    how does any of this apply to neutral countries in a&a?

    NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!!

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