FRANCE and ANZAC COMBAT DICE - HELP us design them!

[knp7765]

@LeeCHeSSS:

Also, is there still a way to order a full red-coloured replacement set for the USSR (AAE40 - it’s almost impossible to tell USSR and Italy apart under artificial light)?

If you go to Historical Board Gaming and check under Axis & Allies Pieces, Europe 1999, click on “Soviet Union, Maroon”.  Some issues of the Europe game had Soviet pieces in a dark red color, what I call burgandy and is very close to the color of FMG’s Soviet Combat Dice.  You will find this color of Soviet Pieces there.  You can buy them individually.  If you are wanting to get a large amount of them, you could contact Coach and perhaps he could work out some sort of deal with you.  Just remember that these pieces are out of print now so they are hard to come by.
Also, there will be some differences between these pieces and the current sets.  Since Europe came out in 1999, this was before WOTC added Cruisers, Tac Bombers and Mechanized Infantry to the games so there will not be any of those pieces available in the burgandy color.  Also, the destroyer and battleship will be the older versions which are basically copies of British units (Johnston class Destroyer, Royal Oak class Battleship).
Another note:  I believe when FMG makes it’s Soviet Union set, they intend on using the burgandy color to match their Combat Dice.  The Soviet Union set from FMG will be done later next year (2012) if you simply want to wait for them.

[GoSanchez6]

Since Fmg is doing the elite black german dice I wonder if there will be other second colours coming for other countries . Olive die for USA, Mustard yellow for Japan with mustard pieces, Italy white or light green. Just a thought.

[knp7765]

@GoSanchez6:

Since Fmg is doing the elite black german dice I wonder if there will be other second colours coming for other countries . Olive die for USA, Mustard yellow for Japan with mustard pieces, Italy white or light green. Just a thought.

Why do you want white for Italy?  White is neutral color.  Now, I have seen some people use a light green for Italy, namely that guy who has a thread on repairing the “B” turret on the FMG Italian Battleship.
I really doubt we will see a mustard color for Japan (although I really like the idea).  The OOB pieces and FMG combat dice are that burnt orange color so I would imagine the FMG Japan sets will be too.
FMG is making their USA sets in the dark green color like their USA combat dice.  There was some talk a while back that FMG might offer the USA combat units in Olive as well to match OOB.  Don’t know if they will bother with making Olive combat dice for USA or not.  Would be pretty cool looking, and one more thing for me to buy (like I don’t have enough already).

[DFWSupertrooper]

@knp7765:

@GoSanchez6:

Since Fmg is doing the elite black german dice I wonder if there will be other second colours coming for other countries . Olive die for USA, Mustard yellow for Japan with mustard pieces, Italy white or light green. Just a thought.

Why do you want white for Italy?  White is neutral color.  Now, I have seen some people use a light green for Italy, namely that guy who has a thread on repairing the “B” turret on the FMG Italian Battleship.
I really doubt we will see a mustard color for Japan (although I really like the idea).  The OOB pieces and FMG combat dice are that burnt orange color so I would imagine the FMG Japan sets will be too.
FMG is making their USA sets in the dark green color like their USA combat dice.  There was some talk a while back that FMG might offer the USA combat units in Olive as well to match OOB.  Don’t know if they will bother with making Olive combat dice for USA or not.  Would be pretty cool looking, and one more thing for me to buy (like I don’t have enough already).

I would LOVE the following supplemental dice from FMG:

• Olive Green US combat dice instead of dark green (to match OOB olive)

• Italy dice with the correct Italian roundel as opposed to the Iranian one from OOB

• UK dice with the SEAC blue/blue roundel for India

• Red dice with communist Chinese roundel from HBG

As it is, I’m buying dark green US pieces to match the FMG dark green (OK I suppose, but just prefer olive - that’s all).  There are none of the other dice yet, and these would all be sweet (ESPECIALLY the SEAC/India dice)!

STOKED about Canada, ANZAC, & France as it is!

[knp7765]

Hey DFWSupertrooper,
I could agree with you on all but one – the Italian combat dice.  I don’t want them to use the “correct” roundel.  I like the green outer edge with the red dot in the center.  Yeah, I know people have pointed out that it is actually the roundel for Iran, but really, Iran wasn’t one of the big powers of WW2.  In fact, it wasn’t even Iran back then, it was still Persia.  Except for them being forced to accept Soviet troops occupying their soil to prevent any Axis incursion and the Lend Lease supplies passing through to Russia, Iran/Persia really wasn’t a part of the war.
Also, I personally just like that roundel better.  I think it looks better.  The “correct” Italian roundel looks weird to me.  A&A Miniatures used it in one of their naval sets on the stat cards and it was odd looking.  With the next set and every one since, they went back to the OOB Italian roundel.  I’m guessing more people wanted that one.
One other thing to consider, if you use the roundel with the red outer edge and green dot in the center, it will look awfully close to the French roundel, red outer edge with blue dot in the middle.  Granted, I don’t think anyone would confuse a French territory for an Italian territory or visa versa, but I also don’t think anyone will confuse Italian territories for Iranian territories.
Of course, maybe you aren’t worried as much about historical accuracy as it is more a personal preference thing for you.  In that case, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.  Hopefully, for both our sakes, if FMG ever decides to go with the “correct” Italian roundel on future Italian combat dice orders, perhaps they will simply keep both versions for whomever wants them.  I know that HBG offers his Invasion Italy maps with all three roundel choices;  OOB, correct, facist.

[DFWSupertrooper]

@knp7765:

Hey DFWSupertrooper,
I could agree with you on all but one – the Italian combat dice.  I don’t want them to use the “correct” roundel.  I like the green outer edge with the red dot in the center.  Yeah, I know people have pointed out that it is actually the roundel for Iran, but really, Iran wasn’t one of the big powers of WW2.  In fact, it wasn’t even Iran back then, it was still Persia.  Except for them being forced to accept Soviet troops occupying their soil to prevent any Axis incursion and the Lend Lease supplies passing through to Russia, Iran/Persia really wasn’t a part of the war.
Also, I personally just like that roundel better.  I think it looks better.  The “correct” Italian roundel looks weird to me.  A&A Miniatures used it in one of their naval sets on the stat cards and it was odd looking.  With the next set and every one since, they went back to the OOB Italian roundel.  I’m guessing more people wanted that one.
One other thing to consider, if you use the roundel with the red outer edge and green dot in the center, it will look awfully close to the French roundel, red outer edge with blue dot in the middle.  Granted, I don’t think anyone would confuse a French territory for an Italian territory or visa versa, but I also don’t think anyone will confuse Italian territories for Iranian territories.
Of course, maybe you aren’t worried as much about historical accuracy as it is more a personal preference thing for you.  In that case, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.  Hopefully, for both our sakes, if FMG ever decides to go with the “correct” Italian roundel on future Italian combat dice orders, perhaps they will simply keep both versions for whomever wants them.  I know that HBG offers his Invasion Italy maps with all three roundel choices;  OOB, correct, facist.

No you’re absolutely right…I LIKE the wrong one better.  Im fine with it on the normal game but if I did a 1939 version with minor powers including the Pro ally neutrals, Iran comes into play (and I think actually by 1940 they were Iran).  At any rate I completely agree FMG should offer both kinds.

[moralecheck]

@FieldMarshalGames:

@moralecheck:

Will the “upgrade kit” include the new pouch?

Yes

Got my upgrade kit.  No pouch.  :cry:

[supermestizo]

Hi

Is there anyone outside Canada/US who have received their Combat Dice Elite?
I ordered mine months ago I paid for them, I got nothing.
I know severl other European customers also got this problem, it seems there must be a BIG PROBLEM with the Canadian Post/Mail system? Pack’s just Get Lost/Stolen!

Every single order I ordered from FMG with Air Mail International Service I have NOT GOT!

The ONLY order I got is the one I ordered with UPS, that one I could track, but it is very expensive.

Anyone?

[moralecheck]

I can tell you I do a lot of shipping to Europe by mail (I’m in Canada).  I have never lost an order and it is very quick, unless sent by surface.  Even surface is usually about 6 weeks to Europe, and there is almost no savings in shipping a few dice by surface.  Typical airmail to Europe is 1-3 weeks, usually in the 1.5 range.

[supermestizo]

@moralecheck:

I can tell you I do a lot of shipping to Europe by mail (I’m in Canada).  I have never lost an order and it is very quick, unless sent by surface.  Even surface is usually about 6 weeks to Europe, and there is almost no savings in shipping a few dice by surface.  Typical airmail to Europe is 1-3 weeks, usually in the 1.5 range.

Hi

Then this is more strange, as I said, not a single order I ordered from FMG with Air Mail International I got, just lost In the Mail? Every single order I ordered from HBG I got just In a few days I got with no problem at all. This is very sad, I really like those Dice and I really Wanted to get them, but shipping them with UPS is just to much I think, AMI is under 10$, UPS 40-50$. I also bought a lot Of films, cd’s from ebay and Amazon from all over US and I got it everytime, thats why I think this problem must be In Canada??
I could of course be wrong, but is just strange that my orderers from FMG In Canada just disappear In the Mail system?

[moralecheck]

Maybe the sender forgot the customs forms.  Are you in Italy? Italy has some really odd rules for toys and games (they must be made of wood), but they don’t really enforce them anymore.  Like I said, I ship to Europe regularly with no issues or delays.  The only stories of long delays that I have heard are from Italy, but even then it is rare.  And even if you are in Italy, I really doubt it would happen to all your orders (but I do know of a few online sellers that won’t ship there now, because of non-delivery issues).  I think something else is the issue here.  When you do get your order, I’d be very interested to know the ship date as marked on the package.  I hope it works out for you.

[supermestizo]

@moralecheck:

Maybe the sender forgot the customs forms.  Are you in Italy? Italy has some really odd rules for toys and games (they must be made of wood), but they don’t really enforce them anymore.  Like I said, I ship to Europe regularly with no issues or delays.  The only stories of long delays that I have heard are from Italy, but even then it is rare.  And even if you are in Italy, I really doubt it would happen to all your orders (but I do know of a few online sellers that won’t ship there now, because of non-delivery issues).  I think something else is the issue here.  When you do get your order, I’d be very interested to know the ship date as marked on the package.  I hope it works out for you.

Hi

No, there is no odd rulles here, I’ m based in Scandinavia.
Hopefully maybe HBG could sell them FMG dice, since they do sell the FMG pieces.
Maybe I’ll just have to set up a new order with the dices, but I want not do that before the German Units are ready to ship, then I’ll will order both the Units and a new set of dices and Get them shipped with UPS.

[knp7765]

@supermestizo:

Maybe I’ll just have to set up a new order with the dices, but I want not do that before the German Units are ready to ship, then I’ll will order both the Units and a new set of dices and Get them shipped with UPS.

It’s anybody’s guess as to how long that will take. I am also waiting on the German Combat units. That miserable Chinese factory fell through on the May 19 completion date and FMG has been very quiet on the subject. I’m sure he gets fed up with all the “Where are my units?” questions, but some kind of update would be nice, especially for those of us that have already paid.

[LeeCHeSSS]

Frankly at the moment I think Jeremy is a big fraud when it comes to international orders. According to European laws, it is his responsibility to ensure correct delivery of shipments, yet he does not respond to inquiries at all. I’m inclined to file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center…

[lozmoid]

Are the FMG Combat Dice still available to purchase? I mean, has anybody received an order recently? I was really hoping to see the FMG Germany Combat Units at some point but I’ve pretty much given up hope on that front now. However, it would still be nice to order some Combat Dice (if they’re still for sale).

[GoSanchez6]

Be careful Loz on the german battle units you are looking for some sort of tongue lashing from some of these guys. The last I looked on FMG’s site I thought you could order them. I might be wrong.

[lozmoid]

Sorry GoSanchez6, I’m just feeling pretty fed up with FMG right now and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Of course, if and when the German Combat Units ever become available to purchase I will glady buy them. But right now that seems like a long way off and the silence from FMG is not really helping much. I guess I just got my hopes up. But if the Combat Dice are still available then I will be happy to contend with them for now. If people don’t like my opinion then by all means, lash away. I just wanted to voice my discontent.  :|

[GoSanchez6]

@Lozmoid:

Sorry GoSanchez6, I’m just feeling pretty fed up with FMG right now and I’m sure I’m not the only one. Of course, if and when the german Combat Units ever become available to purchase I will glady buy them. But right now that seems like a long way off and the silence from FMG is not really helping much. I guess I just got my hopes up. But if the Combat Dice are still available then I will be happy to find contend with them for now. If people don’t like my opinion then by all means, lash away. I just wanted to voice my discontent.  :|

Well said.

[FieldMarshalGames]

Discontent is understood.  Bashing is well deserved.

Alot has happened and FMG almost was sunk!!  I will fill you all in very shortly.

All orders are shipping.  All e-mails are being answered.  But I am staying “under the Radar” until the current situation is resolved.

Jeremy

[WARRIOR888]

Jermey,

Thanks for the update.  Now all you gentlemen who are less than the age of the original AA need to think what you are saying about FMG.  Molds are roughly $10,000 a piece to create.  The you have to deal with Communist Chinese customs, shipping charges, and Royal Canadian Customs to deal with.  My experince as an 31 year USAF Transportation Officer customs officials can hold your product for no reason at all and then ask you to pay them for the privlage of holding your product.  Ask Coach about that he can vouch for that personally.

You guys whine and complain about FMGs lack of communication that is understood.  Bashing them is way out of line unless you know the whole story which at this point not one of us does.  If you are complaining about several months waiting for products to enhance your playing I’ve been waiting 20 plus years to see the units Jeremy and Coach are producing.  So just keep your comments civil towards both FMG and HBG because without their willingness to produce these units you would be stuck with Avlon Hill units and maybe if you can afford some GHQ, Navwar, Navco, and Heroics and Ross metal units or the stuff Xeno games produced.

Jeremy you have my support.

WARRIOR888