Arathorn (Axis) vs SethTheNewb (Allies +10)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 2 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
                  Japanese take Sikang from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
                  Japanese take Yunnan from Chinese
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Hopei
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 4 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsu to 33 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Kiangsu to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of Caroline Islands to defend against the attack in 33 Sea Zone
            Battle in Hopei
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Hopei, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 34 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Java, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Java, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Java
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Java, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
                Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 3 bombers, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 4 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters; Americans defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters and 3 transports
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 bombers, 3 carriers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 1 :  9/17 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 4 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 6 fighters and 3 transports in 33 Sea Zone, round 1 :  7/18 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    3 destroyers owned by the Americans , 2 carriers owned by the Americans , 1 cruiser owned by the ANZAC , 1 cruiser owned by the Americans , 1 carrier owned by the Japanese , 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC and 4 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 bombers, 2 carriers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 :  8/17 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 3 transports in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 :  4/10 hits
                    2 fighters owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Americans , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese , 2 cruisers owned by the Americans , 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese , 1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 3 fighters owned by the ANZAC lost in 33 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 bombers, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 :  8/13 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 3 transports in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans , 1 battleship owned by the Americans and 3 transports owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 3 bombers, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 144
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters and 3 transports

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 battleship and 2 carriers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Kweichow to Hopei
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Malaya
            3 bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau Island
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Jehol
            1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to Paulau Island
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Malaya

Place Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 submarines placed in 19 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 1 fighter placed in Japan
            1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Paulau Island : 3 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
    Kiangsu : 1 factory_minor
    Japan : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    Jehol : 2 mech_infantrys
    Hainan : 1 harbour
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kweichow : 1 flag
    Hunan : 1 flag
    Hopei : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Chahar : 1 flag
    Sikang : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Anhwe : 1 flag
    Shan State : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Malaya : 1 flag, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Borneo : 1 flag
    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Celebes : 1 flag
    Java : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Sumatra : 1 flag
    42 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 transport
    33 Sea Zone : 2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 2 infantry, 4 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
    37 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 transport
    36 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    19 Sea Zone : 3 submarines and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 45 / 53
    Russians : 30 / 35
    Japanese : 60 / 65
    Americans : 50 / 73
    Chinese : 4 / 7
    British : 33 / 44
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 7
    Italians : 20 / 22
    ANZAC : 10 / 24
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 12 times
            2 was rolled 13 times
            3 was rolled 19 times
            4 was rolled 18 times
            5 was rolled 20 times
            6 was rolled 16 times
        Average roll : 3.704
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.557
        Standard Deviation : 0.746
        Total rolls : 98

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 9 times
            2 was rolled 9 times
            3 was rolled 13 times
            4 was rolled 12 times
            5 was rolled 10 times
            6 was rolled 9 times
        Average roll : 3.516
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 0.262
        Standard Deviation : 0.512
        Total rolls : 62

ANZAC Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4.333
        Median : 5.000
        Variance : 1.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.225
        Total rolls : 3

UK_Pacific Combat
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 5.000
        Median : 5.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 3 times
            3 was rolled 5 times
            4 was rolled 6 times
            5 was rolled 8 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 4.000
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.633
        Standard Deviation : 0.796
        Total rolls : 31

Chinese Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.000
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

@seththenewb:

@arathorn:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
� � � � Place Units - Japanese
� � � � � � Turning on Edit Mode
� � � � � � EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
� � � � � � EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
� � � � � � EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

No, no, and a hundred times no. You do not get to do edits to a combat dice like this. And certainly not without asking or even saying something. You pull stuff like this and it makes me question your integrity. I will be editing that cruiser back to where you moved it during your combat move.

Hey dude, look at my post asking for OOL - even BEFORE I rolled the dice for that battle, I TOLD you that somehow the cruiser had gotten put down there, and that I would be doing an edit.

@arathorn:

I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.

IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).

All the other battles are already done.

(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)

Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.

I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.

No one has ever had reason to question anything I have done - I do all I can to be upfront, which is why I told you about the edit before the main battle dice was rolled the first round.

@seththenewb:

Seriously, do you not see how something like that could be construed as cheating? You saw the results of the battle and then edited an additional ship into the SZ? Think about how that impacts my potential (albeit likely unsuccesful) counter. Or impacts your attack potential to sz26 or elsewhere.

I now feel the need to go over the rest of your turns with a fine tooth comb to see what else I might’ve missed, you lost my trust buddy.

I understand that you feel terrible by the bad dice you got - there is nothing wrong with that. I admit I got lucky with your bad dice. However, remember Seth, we’ve always had a good tone, and I like you and enjoy playing against you both live and by email - please take a look at the post I made when I asked for OOL for the subs. I didn’t know you would be diced, so instead of making the whole turn over before rolling dice, I informed you there, before any of the important dice were rolled.

Please buddy, let’s keep our trust and our good tone - I like you too much as a player and opponent to not be on good terms with you. You know I am not a cheater.

@seththenewb:

@arathorn:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6
        Place Units - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

No, no, and a hundred times no. You do not get to do edits to a combat dice like this. And certainly not without asking or even saying something. You pull stuff like this and it makes me question your integrity. I will be editing that cruiser back to where you moved it during your combat move.

If you want to, you can check the time for the OOL post and the Marti Dice emails - and you’ll see that the information of the edit came before the dice were rolled.

@seththenewb:

So, cruiser goes back.

As I already said, I don’t know how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter since I was only going to kill the trannie. Must have mis-clicked first, and then later seen “oh no fighter” and then brought fighter down, not undoing the cruiser since I didn’t see I had put it there.

If you had not been diced, you would not have had any problem with it, neither would I.

@seththenewb:

@arathorn:

@arathorn:

I assumed that you would scramble - but if you would rather not, then we’ll just roll that battle separately.

IF you want scramble, I need the OOL for the substrike (2 hits).

All the other battles are already done.

(btw, I will do one edit, I don’t know why or how I moved the cruiser down outside Java - I meant to only move the fighter. I will edit that afterwards)

Look here - before I even rolled the battle, I told you.

I am a man of integrity, there is no reason to lose trust in me.

I missed you saying that about the edit. But the fact remains that combat dice had already been rolled before you even posted that battle. You had already killed the transport, taken Java, and rolled another 3 additional battles. And you most certainly had already started rolling the Caroline battle as the attached map had the sub hits.

I could have made separate posts about it, or even reposted the entire combat turn, but since I didn’t think it would be a big deal, I did all things in one post, all before any big dice were rolled that determined that battle.

My tone in my post about it should reveal that I didn’t think it would be a big deal, since we have always had a good tone, and that it was clearly not something I intended to do.