kim is right, you have to be super patient with the CP’s in this game. i am currenttly playing a game as the cp, i sent the majority of germany’s forces west, feigning a big push for paris, and sent the rest east to take russia with austria. i should mention that we are playing the russian revolution rules, otherwise this might not have gone well. i basically left enough west with austria to mess with italy so they couldnt gain much ground. by the time of the revolution it looked BLEAK. However, by the time france got done killing off my initial forces and started puching west, germany was throwing down 47 ipcs a turn worth of inf/art/tanks for a counter attack. the rest of the forces in russia i sent down to a HEAVILY contested persia. the game is in round 8 now and the CPs are lookin pretty god damn buff. i think people get discouraged as the CPs at around turn 5 or 6, but if its going to be a CP victory, turn 5 or 6 is too early to tell. remember, the french and british have to walk ALL THE WAY to berlin, just like germany does to paris, but they have the disadvantage of attacking seperately and fighting multiple fronts. if you took russia or forced a RR, you only have to start marching west and building battleships. just make sure that as you move west, to try and let your reinforcements catch up every once in a while. be patient, and try to back them into a corner and do it in places where you can counter attck when tts are contested or they attack you. also, very important to mention, i was playing with larry’s 2 move rule from the tournament rules. waaaaaay better. ill never play with the OOB movement rules again. good luck man. :-D