Ultimate Axis strategy

I love Japan. Just thought I’d add my personal preference. I can wreak havoc all over with Japan and be in Moscow within 4 turns. I wanted to help germany. GB is useless without a navy. They are “dead in teh water”. I spend my money on planes to make sure that GB cannot splash down a navy. I buy at least one plane per turn and then spend the rest on INf and AMR. It is a slower march through Africa and a slower attack on Russia but if the rolls are right I can wear down russia enough that Japan can come in the back door.

If Japan takes Moscow then Germany can turn its full attention to building a navy in the med and building up in africa. Meanwhile GB is just got a bazillion things sitting on the land and no way to go anywhere.

Word of caution. I have played this many times and it has played to a “battle of attrition”. Germany and GB lose tons. Japan usually copmes to save the day but it can go sour if the rolls go against you.

mike

@ubernyaw:

I used to use that strategy quite some time, but perhaps the main weakness is when I attack Karelia on G2 or later, my friends playing as England have put several fighters and infantry there, basically screwing over any such attack.

If you have a naval unit in GB sea zone at the end of G1, the Allies cannot reinforce ground troops to Karelia. If they chose to expend 1-3 of their precious fighters, the only true defence of GB, then they will die on the ground as you roll into Karelia. That would only make GB weak, as they only have like 5 ground units on the island. Remember, there is a CV getting ready to completely lock down GB sea zone, thus blocking reinforcements of both GB and Russia, and withing striking distance of any convoy headed for Algeria.

Reinforcements are just a fear, nothing more. All the allies can do is either build bombers & hope for a 6/6 on a tech roll, or build a US fleet in the Atlantic. That leaves Japan free to harvest ipc, and pour troops into Asia.

Cheers!

@ubernyaw:

This is because not only does the fighter hit 2 out of 3 times, but it has a lot of infantry cannon fodder to protect it. It may not halt a german offensive, but it will gash it’s wrists and let it bleed for a good long time, making Karelia really vulnerable to a Russian counter attack.

Very true. It does play out that way sometimes. I do feel, however, that the risk is worth it. Two out of three times I’ll have enough to withstand the counter-attack at Karelia. If I don’t, oh well…it is a team effort after all. The Russians will be in worst shape than Germany, so let the Japs take it, I’m not particular. So long as Russia falls by T4-5, then it’s all good.

I’m not disagreeing with your preference. I have won many a map without going all-out. It’s just that, after playing dozens of games as Germany, this is the strategy that wins me the most maps. I simply don’t like to dance to the Allies tune…build-up.

Cheers!

I agree with you completely on your strategy for Germany. But I would suggest that planing on conquering Germany on the second turn is very ambitious of you. Any skilled Soviet player would easily be able to hold off your invasion until the third or forth turn with a little help from the UK.

Yea I meant Russia. IE spell messed it up. It deleted half a sentence. And on the topic of the RAF I think they can be more usefully by directly assaulting Germany in either Western Europe of Norway. This will draw some of Germany’s resources away from the Eastern front. Even If the assault on Western Europe fails (and it usually does) It will still have weakened the territory thus allowing the US to come in and take it on their turn providing their transport hasn’t been destroyed and they still have a good portion of their air force. Even if Germany takes Western Europe back on it’s turn it will have had to completely stop its assault against Russia.

Sry about the guest thing. I didn’t realise I wasn’t logged in

The trick to screwing over Russia on the first round is to throw everything, literrally everything at Karelia on the very first round, and buying tons tanks so you can reinforce your front on the second turn. Be prepared to lose Ukraine. The gain, however, is Karelia, and a new factory. Ukraine can be retaken very easily, because of the Russians throw too many troops at Ukraine from Caucausus, Karelia can take Caucausus. If you throw everything at Karelia (planes, tanks, infantry, everything you can possibly mobilize and attack with), you will end up losing only a handful of infantry and an almost impenetrable Karelia.

Make sure that when you land your planes, land them in EE, not Ukraine. You’ll want to concentrate all your forces in one territory. Ukraine can be retaken very easily.

Please note that to increase the ease of moving Afrika Korps over to Libya, you should use all fighters and battleships and subs that you aren’t throwing at Karelia to attack UK’s subs. Make absolutely sure to use up the sub and transport north of Germany (try to sink the battleship and transport), because the UK will surely attack that sub with fighters on their own turn, leaving you totally helpless.

But what if USSR has stockpiled in Kar on R1 with only 1 or 2 inf in Cau?

Re: the German fleet idea…Is the idea to lose German ftrs in the battle for the North Sea? That would be the only way to have a German naval presence in the UK sz ending G1.

The problem is then the UK hits the UK sz with a bmr and 2 ftrs to sink the German fleet. UK may build a CV and trn in the UK sz. If the US flies over 2 ftrs and moves a trn carrying 2 inf to reinforce UK. The German fleet and remaining air power(-2 ftrs to have taken the UK sz) would not be able to handle this.

@Zakes:

The trick to screwing over Russia on the first round is to throw everything, literrally everything at Karelia on the very first round, and buying tons tanks so you can reinforce your front on the second turn. Be prepared to lose Ukraine. The gain, however, is Karelia, and a new factory. Ukraine can be retaken very easily, because of the Russians throw too many troops at Ukraine from Caucausus, Karelia can take Caucausus. If you throw everything at Karelia (planes, tanks, infantry, everything you can possibly mobilize and attack with), you will end up losing only a handful of infantry and an almost impenetrable Karelia.

Supposing Russia doesn’t attack Ukraine and removes the German transport? That puts the odds in Russia’s favor, and even if you do take it, it’s possible that Britain will recapture Karelia, thus allowing the Russians to place more infantry there, allowing a quick capture of Germany and so on.

If I am playing Russia, I know that I have to maintain the big K for the first 2 or 3 rounds bofore the US gets the shuck going and the UK can throw some RaF squads down. All I focus on is keeping the K and pulling back and setting up deadzones on the Asian front…if Germany somehow pulls off the dice trick and takes K on that first round, they are so open to counter attack on so many fronts the game end rather quickly. Usually I play Germany buying all INF for the first 3 rounds creating a nice wall…by that time Japan is est. themselves in Asian and the game starts to get a little more fun for the Germans.

The first strategy above…
G buys nutin but arm … a desperate gamble cause if he loses he’s got no backup and … he LOSES!

Another idee in thar …
G buys 1 cv, 2 arm & 1 inf … If UK buys a cv & trn … US sends its trn & flies 2 ftr to land on the UK cv … If G attacks with Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe then G will have little left to counter multiple fronts. Der gamen ist kaput. :D

i always play russia and always japan always takes over the whole east side of russia china easily which i think gives them a huge advantage which really sucks

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i always play russia and always japan always takes over the whole east side of russia china easily which i think gives them a huge advantage which really sucks

What strategies do you use? The best thing to do is consolidate Russia’s forces in Yakut. The other Allies can help by building ICs in Sinkinang/India or (preferred method of many) combining to take out Germany before Japan can take out Russia.

Usually I play Germany buying all INF for the first 3 rounds creating a nice wall…by that time Japan is est. themselves in Asian and the game starts to get a little more fun for the Germans.

Yup, that’s usually my play as well… the only thing I tend to do is when I see Russia getting too many INF in say Karelia, I’ll launch a little “spoiler” attack on them using all of the armour in order to reduce them by say 6-7 INF… usually I’ll lose a bit as well, but the trick is to keep things even up… to not allow them to launch the offensive until Japan gets going.

Russia on her own will never be able to outbuy Germany (save taking a lot of territory elsewhere which is unlikely) nor does Russia posess in the early game any kind of real offensive force. So they must try and play the defense, but if they do not get help from UK/ USA by T3 at latest (I mean by T3 troops had better be pouring in to help) they’re in trouble.

Also, buying tanks for Germany is a bad idea… go heavy INF and maybe by G3 throw in a tank or so (using that extra IPC you get from taking over all of Africa)

:D

kyri,
I agree. G buys most inf(maybe the C Med trn), with the occassional arm if ya got 2 additional IPCs. The arm G starts with should be good for 2-3 attacks so no need to go ARM HEAVY. Inf fodder needed with arm support so that if you have to lose it you don’t lose the ftrs(more flexible)!