Convoy disruption relay

but you could only superstack subs because surface warships would cause a combat.  It does look it will come into play more in the German/UK conflict though because of the limited number of spaces to put your ships.

Convoys can really hurt the UK around England. UK India doesn’t have a lot of $, so a Jap fleet just sitting at India sz, or the UK owned Dutch isles can be costly. Then there’s sz 80 around the Mid East, or the Med w/Italy by Egypt. The UK may not have the forces to keep all these clear.

Thing is Wild Bill…. from the way I understand the rules they wouldnt have to keep those sea zones clear.  They would just have to make sure they didnt have any of their (UK’s) warships in those SZ’s.

@Bruda_Iz:

Thing is Wild Bill…. from the way I understand the rules they wouldnt have to keep those sea zones clear.  They would just have to make sure they didnt have any of their (UK’s) warships in those SZ’s.

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No, if the sz w/convoy emblem is adjacent to a UK tt, how the UK would lose $ is by having enemy subs or surface war ships in them during the UK collect income phase (A UK ship doesn’t need to be present).  If enemy war ships move into a convoy sz next to a UK tt, then the UK should attack those ships if it can, or it will cost them 2 ipc/enemy sub, and 1 ipc/enemy surface warship in UK’s collect income phase. There is a max amount that the UK could lose per convoy sz based on the total ipc level of all UK tt adjacent to said sz.
This would go for any power that owns coastal tt adjacent to a convoy sz.

I wonder if Germany and Italy can make a fleet of about 10-15 submarines and place them off the East coast of America in the first few turns and if Japan can make a fleet of submarines and place them off the West coast of America, therby sucking dry all of their incomes.  I know this sounds kind of crazy, but submarines are cheap now and could this be possible or is it crazier than a Sea Lion attempt.  :evil:

@Real:

I wonder if Germany and Italy can make a fleet of about 10-15 submarines and place them off the East coast of America in the first few turns and if Japan can make a fleet of submarines and place them off the West coast of America, therby sucking dry all of their incomes.  I know this sounds kind of crazy, but submarines are cheap now and could this be possible or is it crazier than a Sea Lion attempt.  :evil:

If the axis want to raid the US convoy zones, they would have to first declare war on the US (at the beginning of the axis players turn). On the US turn they could declare war on any axis power and could attack the axis fleets. If they sink them (in the US combat phase) there would be no deduction (in the US collect income phase).

The axis can be in those convoy zones w/o being at war w/US and not attack the convoys if they so choose.

oh ok Wild Bill.  I reread the rules and found that user error was to blame for my misunderstanding.  In other words I had a total brain fart  :lol:

@Bruda_Iz:

oh ok Wild Bill.  I reread the rules and found that user error was to blame for my misunderstanding.  In other words I had a total brain fart  :lol:

Yeah this game can do that. LOL

I’ve often thought it should be legal to have ships of opposing sides in a SZ without combat being mandatory.

The side entering the SZ can decide to “shadow” the enemy fleet without attacking it, principally to keep it within range.  The original fleet can attack on it’s own turn, but again is not obliged to do so.

Perhaps a fleet deciding to attack first has to actually find the enemy ships, something not guaranteed in open ocean (die roll, modified by presence of aircraft?)

that would definatly be inkeeping with battles like the battle of Midway where it was the very good fortune of the US navy to find the Japanese navy first.