Mistergreen (Allies) vs AlexGreat (Axis), G40 Final Alpha, TripleA, NT

[lexgreat]

Pyrrhic victory. Never was that expensive, and surely not worth it.

[lexgreat]

forgot to edit in the DD from the other fleet…sry

[Mistergreen]

According to the battle calc you should have won on avarage with 7.29 units remaining, you had 7. I’d have to say that was the expected outcome. May still be a Pyrrhic victory.  :-)

I can edit a dd from sz20 to sz39 when I got time to do US, which may or may not be very soon….  :-)

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Politics - Americans
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States
            Setting uses for triggers used this phase.

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 fighters and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Americans
            Setting uses for triggers used this phase.
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 destroyer and 2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Caroline Islands
                Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Americans win, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Americans win with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 45 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Guam to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Philippines
            2 carriers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco

Place Units - Americans
            1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            4 fighters placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: games.strategy.engine.data.ProductionFrontier called productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            Giving bonus movement to units
            4 infantry moved from Shensi to Kansu
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            5 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Chinese win with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kansu
                Chinese attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Chinese win with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Chinese attack with 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Chinese win with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Tsinghai

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Tsinghai
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Chinese player Removing units owned by PlayerID named:Japanese from 20 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Chinese player Adding units owned by PlayerID named:Japanese to 39 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

[Mistergreen]

Edited the dd sz20 > sz39 during Chinas turn.

[lexgreat]

7 remaining was expected? Ok then. 3 AA gun hits were a more than average start, and first round was very bloody, but maybe subsequent rounds were better then I thought. In any case no complaints, a similar outcome is always possible. Wrong strategy probably if relying on dice too much.

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 cruisers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
                  British take Holland Belgium from Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                British win with 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 91 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            2 cruisers and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total

[Mistergreen]

There is a combat calculator build into tripleA. Click ctrl-b on a battle area and the units are added into the battle calculator automatically. 7.29 was the outcome of 2000 simulations so the result may be a little off from the exact number.  :-)

[lexgreat]

Thx, that is helpful. What I use gives me probabilities and IPCs lost, but not “units remaining”. I am too lazy to convert most of the times, so this will certainly help me. Had I bothered to check, with a result of 7 I would not have attacked :)

Was about to ask you about the 7 and how you knew, your explanation anticipated my question :)

[Mistergreen]

You aren’t using http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html by any chance. My goto calc when taking up online a&a using Abattlemap a month or two ago. But then I got seduced by tripleA…  :-)

[lexgreat]

I am :)

[lexgreat]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            Giving bonus movement to units
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 81 Sea Zone to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
                  Italians take Gibraltar from British
            1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Algeria
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Algeria
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                French defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Algeria, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 2 infantry in Algeria, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Algeria
                Italians win, taking Algeria from French with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Italians win with 1 artillery and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for French: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  4/10 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  4/8 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the British and 4 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians , 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 3 :  3/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                Italians win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Italians win with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                  Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis
            1 fighter moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 fighter moved from Algeria to Tunisia
            1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

Place Units - Italians
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
            1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 59
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 42 / 71
    Americans : 54 / 79
    Chinese : 6 / 8
    British : 32 / 33
    UK_Pacific : 13 / 0
    Italians : 19 / 31
    ANZAC : 14 / 14
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to Philippines
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

[Mistergreen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.8

Game History

Round :3

Combat Move - French
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 83 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

[lexgreat]

Scramble orders, pls.

[Mistergreen]

Yes scramble all fighters!

[Mistergreen]

OOL: Keep best defense, in case of a tie keep more expensive unit.

[Mistergreen]

Btw you do know that you can move more than one unit at a time? :-)

[lexgreat]

no. But I wondered, would be helpful :)