Axisplaya(Axis) vs NoMercy (Allies) G40\. A+2

[Axisplaya]

Hmm…Russia can only DOW at the collect income phase of it’s 4th turn i think. You can’t make any Combat move during turn 4 as long as i didn’t DOW you previously with Germany or Italy.

[NoMercy]

I was wondering about that, I read through the rules and it said may not declare war before turn 4 unless provoked declared war on.

So in Alpha 2 or in the rules it says cannot declare war at the start of turn 4?
I read through the rule book and it says may not declare war before turn 4 but nothing about during the start of turn 4.

[Axisplaya]

@NoMercy:

I was wondering about that, I read through the rules and it said may not declare war before turn 4 unless provoked declared war on.

So in Alpha 2 or in the rules it says cannot declare war at the start of turn 4?
I read through the rule book and it says may not declare war before turn 4 but nothing about during the start of turn 4.

Ok, it appears you are completely right !
Right now, i must confess : i feel extremely stupid !!  :oops: :oops: :oops:
I’ve played dozens of games, believing that Russia could only DOW Germany/Italy only on Collect income phase on turn 4 when Ger/Ita didn’t attack Russia previously…
It never happened before (in at least 30 games) that my oponent chose to attack me with Russia on turn 4…I just can’t believe it…how is that possible !!!

And myself with Russia…There has been a lot of times i would have loved to attack with Russia on turn 4 and thought i wasn’t allowed…

Geez…really feel dumb right now… Well, that’s what happen when you don’t own the Rulebook and take for granted what you’re being told the 1st time you play…

Ok, i’m still at work for now, but will post G5 within a few hours.

[NoMercy]

My rule-book was the downloadable PDF for Europe 1940.
I’ve already made a ton of mistakes this game which is expected being my first game, but I have used it as a spring-board to test start new games and try a few different things.

I was kind of worried you were right but a turn 5 attack would leave Russia out of position and never able to get any German Territories (more a Axis advantage)
I could have strafed and hurt your Hungarian stack…it was tempting to deprive the Germans of upfront units… just didn’t position myself correctly enough for it.

That and I keep forgetting to bring my AA guns around…I keep forgetting from Revised days to keep them with the Factories to protect them…

I must admit I am surprised to through the surprise Russia attack on Round 4 then for the first time on you.
At least I can take that with me from my first game.

I just got back from Hockey… I’m the goalie and we just won our first game of the tournament, a complete upset… 11-10 final score after 45 min of ball-hockey, not bad considering:

1. we were down 5-2 still in the first 10-15min of the game and
2. we never beat this team all year even in a single period…I guess that shows anything can happen

[Axisplaya]

@NoMercy:

I must admit I am surprised to through the surprise Russia attack on Round 4 then for the first time on you.

I’m still in shock about that ! I just can’t believe i’ve been through dozens of games where my oponents never took advantage of my very poor German positioning due to my misknowing of the rules…i’m just totally puzzled about this…

@NoMercy:

2. we never beat this team all year even in a single period…I guess that shows anything can happen

Very true !
Concerning our game, since 1st turn i’ve been noticing that your play was just excellent considering it’s your 1st game.
I’m ABSOLUTELY NOT considering this game as a “walk in the park”.
Was thinking you’re gonna be a VERY TOUGH opponent once you’ll have a dozen games under your belt…

[Axisplaya]

Japan 4

Buy:
6inf (18)
1fgt (10)
3mec (12)
2Mic (24)

BB sz37 repaired.

CM

Yen
10inf, 1mec, 1art Yak walk in

Sik
1inf She walk in

Gua
1inf Cel » tr sz44 » sz21 Gua walk in

Sze (2inf)
5inf, 2art She
1bmb Kwa

Yun (1inf)
1art Kwe
1mec Anh
2tac Kwa

Shn (1inf, 1art)
1inf Kwa
1art Fic
1tac Sia
3tac, 1bmb Kwa

sz41 (1dd)
1ss sz43
2fgt sz37
3fgt, 1tac sz42

Sum (1inf)
1inf, 1art Mal » tr sz37 » sz41 » Sum
tr sz43 with 1inf Bor » sz 42 pick-up 1inf Jav » sz41 » Sum

Sze

Rolls: 3@1 4@2 1@4; Total Hits: 43@1: (6, 4, 1)4@2: (2, 6, 2, 5)1@4: (1)

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 22@2: (1, 1)

[Axisplaya]

Sze twlo 2inf

Yun

Rolls: 2@2 2@3; Total Hits: 42@2: (2, 1)2@3: (1, 3)

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

[Axisplaya]

Yun twol

Shn

Rolls: 2@2 4@3 1@4; Total Hits: 52@2: (1, 3)4@3: (1, 2, 1, 2)1@4: (6)

Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 02@2: (4, 5)

[Axisplaya]

Shn twol

sz41

Rolls: 1@2 5@3 1@4; Total Hits: 41@2: (6)5@3: (4, 3, 3, 2, 2)1@4: (5)

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Axisplaya]

Lol, glad i finally decided to send that ss with the planes….

sz41 cwlo 1ss

Sum

Rolls: 2@1 2@2; Total Hits: 02@1: (2, 3)2@2: (4, 3)

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

[Axisplaya]

Of course….

Sum rd 2

Rolls: 1@1 2@2; Total Hits: 11@1: (5)2@2: (1, 3)

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

[Axisplaya]

Sum twlo 1inf

NCM

1dd sz16 » sz22
1dd sz6 » sz34
1dd sz42 » sz46
5fgt, 1tac sz41 » sz35
2AC, 4fgt sz6 » sz35
1AC, 1BB sz37 » sz35
1tr, 1dd, 1CA, 2AC sz 42 » sz35
1ss sz44 » sz35
1bmb Sze » Kwa
4tac, 1bmb Shn » Kwa
tr sz35 » sz34 pick-up 1inf Pau » sz35 » Phi
2tac Yun » Kwa
1fgt, 1tac Jap » Kwa
2mec, 1tnk Man » Anh
AAgun Yak » Yen
inf Bury » Yak
2inf, 1art Hon » Kwa

Place units:
1Mic Fic
1Mic Sha
3mec Man
6inf, 1fgt Jap

Collect: 74 IPC

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[NoMercy]

USA Round 4: (75)

1 Trn (7), 2 SS (12), 7 DD (56) Spend all 75$

SZ 21 (1 trn) vs 1 fgts SZ 33
SZ 22 (1 DD) vs 1 trn(33), (1 Inf from Caroline islands to unload on Mar), 1 SS from SZ 26, 3 fgts, 1 bmb (2 fgts from (33), 1 fgt + bmb from Hawaii)
SZ 34  (1 DD) vs 1 SS (SZ 33), 2 fgts, 1 tac from SZ 33

I’ll wait for your Kamikaze orders for SZ 22

Can they only hit surface ships (and only subs if DD present)?

[Axisplaya]

@NoMercy:

USA Round 4: (75)

1 Trn (7), 2 SS (12), 7 DD (56) Spend all 75$

SZ 21 (1 trn) vs 1 fgts SZ 33
SZ 22 (1 DD) vs 1 trn(33), (1 Inf from Caroline islands to unload on Mar), 1 SS from SZ 26, 3 fgts, 1 bmb (2 fgts from (33), 1 fgt + bmb from Hawaii)
SZ 34  (1 DD) vs 1 SS (SZ 33), 2 fgts, 1 tac from SZ 33

I’ll wait for your Kamikaze orders for SZ 22

Can they only hit surface ships (and only subs if DD present)?

I know kamis can’t shoot at ennemies lone transports but that’s about all. Usually, i never have a chance to use them. Don’t even remember if they can shoot at planes.

It says on the Alpha + 2 rules :

13. Kamikaze Strike: The capture of certain islands (Iwo Jima, etc.) is no longer required to activate kamikaze - they can be used at any time. If an Allied power attacks Japanese units in or conducts an amphibious assault from a sea zone containing the Kamikaze symbol, the Japanese player can announce at the beginning of the Conduct Combat phase, of that round, that he or she intends to launch a kamikaze strike. (Note: Kamikaze strikes are now triggered by combat, not combat movement.) See page 14 (Pacific 1940) for specific details as to how Kamikaze strikes are conducted.

So in this situation, i don’t even know if i can use Kamis…Think they can’t shoot at planes either if i remember well.

I’ll go and ask it in the G40 FAQ thread.

[Axisplaya]

Ok, got the answer from Krieghund : i can’t use Kamikazes in this battle.

[NoMercy]

Wow, so other words they can only target DD (surface ships) or better…
Anything like a trn, ss or planes can’t be targeted.

In my opinion it’s a shame they can’t be used vs transports…wouldn’t that make it better for Japan to defend their empire?
I sent in the attack, kind of just wishful thinking you would use 1-2 kami’s on them and only a small 1-way chance of hitting (roll of 2 or less I believe).

I guess I’m helping you learn a few new things as well, which is good all around.

[NoMercy]

SZ 22 battle:
Attack (1 SS, 3 fgts, 1 bmb)
Rolls: 1@2 3@3 1@4; Total Hits: 41@2: (5)3@3: (2, 1, 3)1@4: (2)
Defense (1 DD)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

SZ 34 battle
Attack (1 SS, 2 fgts, 1 tac)
Rolls: 1@2 2@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@2: (3)2@3: (4, 2)1@4: (5)
Defense (1 DD)
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)

[NoMercy]

SZ 21, 22 & 34 all cleared WOL
Marinas taken WOL

NCM:

3 fgts from SZ 22 to SZ 33 (land on AC)
1 fgt from SZ 21 to SZ 33 (land on AC)
2 fgt from SZ 34 to SZ 33 (land on AC)
1 Tac from SZ 34 to Caroline islands
1 bmb from SZ 22 to Caroline islands
1 DD, 1 trn from SZ 32 to SZ 33 (load 2 inf from Msh and unload on Caroline islands)
1 BB, 2 SS from SZ 26 to SZ 33
1 SS from SZ 26 to SZ 6
1 SS from SZ 28 to SZ 26
SZ 10 fleet to SZ 31
2 trns from SZ 101 to SZ 86 (load 1 art from EUS and unload on Brazil)
1 Inf, 1 AA from WUS to CUS
1 Mech from WUS to EUS

USA collects: 52$ + $25 NO = $77

Placement:
1 trn in SZ 101
2 SS, 7 DD in SZ 10

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[NoMercy]

China Round 4 (6):

Purchase 2 Inf (6)

Combat:

Sik (1 Inf) vs 3 Inf, 1 fgt from TSI
She (1 Inf) vs 6 Inf TSI

Sik Attack:
Rolls: 3@1 1@3; Total Hits: 23@1: (4, 1, 3)1@3: (3)
Sik Defense:
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

She attack:
Rolls: 6@1; Total Hits: 16@1: (3, 6, 6, 1, 4, 4)
She Defense
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

[NoMercy]

Sik and She both Taken WOL
NCM

1 fgt from Sik to TSI

Placement: 2 Inf on She (If I can’t place here, then they will go to Kan

China collects $4

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